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Minutes of a Regular Meeting DRAFT
Town of Los Altos Hills
PLANNING COMMISSION
Tuesday, November 10, 1998, 7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers, 26379 Fremont Road
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1. ROLL CALL AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Planning Commission meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers at
Town Hall.
Present: Chairman Cheng, Commissioners Gottlieb, Schreiner&Jinkerson
Absent: Commissioner Aurelio
Staff: Curtis Williams, Planning Director; Sheryl Proft, Associate Engineer, Shaunn
O'Connor, Assistant Planner;Lani Smith, Planning Secretary
2. PRESENTATIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Michael Scott, 27856 Black Mountain Road, noted concern in the neighborhood regarding the
need for a study of drainage requirements, landslides, and ways to drain water when the land is
saturated. The Planning Director stated that the next General Plan Element to be reviewed, Land
Use, will address this subject.
3. PUBLIC HEARINGS
3.1 LANDS OF SCOTT, 27860 Black Mountain Road (246-97-ZP-SD); A request
for a Site Development Permit for a pond and a landscape plan.
The Planning Director introduced this item and noted the receipt of letters from Mr. Lai, Mr.
Lanahan, Mr. & Mrs. Marcus, Mr. & Mrs. Hall, Mr. & Mrs. Marion, and Mrs. Hoff).
Commissioner Jinkerson disclosed he also has a clay pond.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Mike Scott, 27856 Black Mountain Road, applicant,stated that the pond is planned as a water
garden and not as a fish pond, although small Mosquito fish, provided by Santa Clara County,
will be used to provide pest control. An airation system is planned to maintain water quality and
no chemicals will be used. He expected an increase in wildlife, particularly birds, that will visit
the area. He further addressed the complaints listed in the letters from neighbors which included
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the size of the pond, the pond not keeping with the residential nature of the neighborhood, the
potential the pond would bring (attract many ducks, the mosquito fish not controlling
mosquitoes, the noise from frogs), and drainage issues. He further questioned the conditions of
approval, 1 through 13, and the site development permit date. He started this project 18 months
ago. Originally there was a large house, pool, tennis court, barn and caretaker cottage on the site.
He does not plan to build a house on the lot for at least four years, and he felt the pond would be
more attractive than the existing weeds and will better support local wildlife. Further discussion
ensued regarding the safety of the pond.
Daniel Lima, 2120 Church Avenue, San Martin, project landscaping representative, addressed
the safety of the pond liner, the location of the pond (lower area), and the planned natural
landscaping.
Sandy Humphries, Environmental Design Committee, encourages a plan which promotes native
plants between properties. The pond will be very helpful in attracting and providing areas for
native species. This will create a healthy corridor.
Bob Hall, 12140 Foothill Lane, voiced health concerns regarding water fowl, drainage,
mosquitoes, earthquake and spill-over, and the movement of wildlife.
CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING
Commissioner Jinkerson shared his personal experience with ponds. He did not know why
neighbors would be concerned as the pond would maintain the rural environment, much more
than a new structure. Commissioner Gottlieb asked if the drainage concerns would be greater
than with a new residence. Sheryl Proft responded there would be no more concern than with a
tennis court. It was noted that the maintenance agreement would run with the land.
Commissioner Schreiner agreed with previous comments. Any development would increase
drainage, and the maintenance agreement has specific language in case of complaints. She was
concerned with the 750 cubic yards to be spread on the site. Ms. Proft stated that there was
enough room on the site to spread the fill so not to be detrimental. It would eliminate the need to-
haul the fill off-site, if spread properly. The Planning Director recommended additional wording
to condition #8 regarding fill to prevent any negative drainage impacts on the neighboring
properties, and any excess fill material that is not approved with the grading plan to be exported
from the site. Also, add to condition #3 that the Planning Director shall have the discretion to
require review of the pond maintenance and may take emergency action, if necessary, to insure
that the pond is properly maintained.
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MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Jinkerson and seconded by
Commissioner Schreiner to the Site Development Permit for a pond and landscape plan, Lands of
Scott, with the following additions/changes to the conditions of approval: add to #3, The
Planning Director shall have the discretion to require review of the pond maintenance and may
take emergency action, if necessary, to insure that the pond is properly maintained; and add to#8,
the plan shall limit the placement of fill on the site in such a way that no additional negative
drainage impacts would occur on the neighboring properties. Any excess fill material that is not
approved with the grading plan shall be exported from the site. —
AYES: Chairman Cheng, Commissioners Gottlieb, Schreiner&Jinkerson
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Aurelio
This approval is subject to a 21 day appeal period.
3.2 LANDS OF SHUM & TENG, 24028 Oak Knoll Circle (144-98-ZR-SD-GD); A
request for a Site Development Permit for a new residence and indoor pool.
The Planning Director introduced this item by noting the receipt of a letter from Mr. and Mrs.
- Chantalat on Dawson Drive regarding modifying the drainage plan. •
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Patrick Sheahan, 2213 Fifth Street, Berkeley, project architect, provided a colored rendering of
the proposed house, providing information regarding design elements. In 1995, the Planning
Commission approved a site development permit for a new residence and pool on the property.
The applicant did not obtain a building permit to build the house, and the permit expired in 1996.
The applicants have since decided to propose a completely different design and submitted the
current application earlier this year. He further discussed the use of mat finish, cast color
concrete, roofing material, the use of different shades of gray, and adhering to the Town color
board. Mr. Sheahan stated they will-revise the basement plan to conform to code, and they will
address neighbor's concern regarding drainage.
Paul Chantalat, 11681 Dawson Drive, felt they could resolve the drainage concerns by working
with the applicants.
CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING
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Commissioner Schreiner questioned the requirement for a residential fire sprinkler system on a
fairly new subdivision. The Planning Director will ask the fire department to review water flow
needs on future subdivisions. Commissioner Jinkerson questioned the very large skylight (glass
roof cover). He asked that it be designed to meet the Town's reflectivity standards for roofs
(40%). Commissioner Schreiner noted the subdivision conditions required a one story house
although the previous approved house plan also had a two story element.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Jinkerson and seconded by
Commissioner Schreiner to approve the Site Development Permit for a new residence and indoor
pool, Lands of Shum and Teng, with the following additions/changes to the conditions of
approval: add #2, that trees shall be limited to species which at maturity will not block views
from neighboring properties; add to #4, that the large skylight over the front entry shall be as
non-reflective as feasible, but in no event shall it exceed a reflectivity of 40%; add to #6, the
porcelain tile shall have a matte finish (not highly reflective) and a sample of the material shall
be submitted for staff review along with the color selections; and add to #13, that the plan shall
be revised to relocate the drainage outlet to minimize impacts to the neighboring property in the
rear.
AYES: Chairman Cheng, Commissioners Schreiner, Gottlieb &Jinkerson
NOES: None •
ABSENT: Commissioner Aurelio
This approval is subject to a 21 day appeal period.
3.3 DRAFT CIRCULATION AND SCENIC ROADWAYS ET.FMENT OF THE
GENERAL PLAN, including proposed policies and implementation measures
regarding: maintenance and dedication of private roadways; right-of-way widths;
the aesthetic design of roadways; road capacities and traffic levels; regional traffic
problems; roadway safety measures; emergency access routes; standards for
drainage; reducing impacts of regional traffic; bicycles and other alternate
transportation modes; and coordination with the Town's Pathways Element and
the pathway network; and proposed Negative Declaration (continued from
October 28, 1998 Planning Commission meeting).
The Planning Director introduced this item by indicating there were changes made to the
document as directed at the previous meeting. He will instruct the consultant to indicate in the
margin box on page 9 that the Commission recommends Alternative A.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
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Les Earnest, 12769 Dianne Drive, felt the revised version was much improved, although there
were a few issues which still needed to be addressed, in particular, emergency access roads. He
felt there needs to be an emergency access road plan just as the Town has a pathway plan. They
should systematically identify places that need to have emergency access roads but do not at
present. The Planning Director agreed, however, a more comprehensive review of this should be
addressed in the Safety Element of the General Plan. Mr. Earnest continued by discussing the
issue of openable gates. He felt somewhere in the document it should state that gates should at
least be openable by nearby neighbors and no gates should bar pedestrian access-to an emergency
route.
Commissioner Gottlieb suggested expanding the language so all emergency roads used for
emergencies can also be used for emergency pedestrian access. Discussion ensued regarding
access to locked gates, and gate use being consistent with keeping non emergency vehicles off
the road.
Les Earnest commented on the need for wide outside lanes for bicycles. The Planning Director
responded that the language in the document, while it does not go to the point of identifying the
standard Les would like to see, it does state that bike traffic shall be accommodated by
discouraging auto traffic and providing adequate road shoulders. Further discussion ensued
regarding the Santa Clara County designated bike route and the signing of same.
CLOSED PUBLIC BEARING
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Gottlieb and seconded by.
Commissioner Jinkerson to recommend approval of the proposed Circulation and Scenic
Roadways Element of the General Plan to the City Council, including a recommendation to adopt
the Negative Declaration, with two recommended changes: note in the box on page 9 that the
Planning Commission has recommended Alternative A; and add a policy relative to emergency
roads stating emergency roads should be made as accessible as feasible to pedestrians during
emergency access.
AYES: Chairman Cheng, Commissioners Schreiner, Gottlieb &Jinkerson
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Aurelio
This item will appear on the December 2, 1998 City Council agenda.
Commissioner Jinkerson thanked the staff and the consultant for all their hard work and patience
while working with the Commission on the Circulation and Scenic Roadways Element. He
hoped that the City Council would approve the document as recommended by the Planning
Commission.
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4. OLD BUSINESS
4.1 Report from subcommittees-none
5. NEW BUSINESS
None
6. REPORT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
6.1 Planning Commission Representative for November 4th meeting - Commissioner
Gottlieb, reported on the following: acceptance of Summit Wood Road and Tepa Way as public
streets; approval of agreement with Crawford, Multari and Clark Associates for professional
planning services to prepare Phase 2, update to the Town's General Plan (Land Use, Open Space,
Conservation and Recreation Elements); and determination of roof color at 12840 Lucero Lane,
Lands of Bulfer and Pope (continued).
6.2 Planning Commission Representative for November 18`h-meeting canceled
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7. - APPROVAL OF MINUTES
7.1 October 28, 1998 minutes will be available at the next scheduled meeting.
8. REPORT FROM THE SLUE DEVELOPMENT HEARING NOVEMBER 3 AND 10,
1998
8.1 LANDS OF VELLEQUETTE, 25505 Bledsoe Court (187-98-ZP-SD); A request
for a Site Development Permit for a landscape screening plan and fence.
Approved with conditions November 3, 1998.
8.2 LANDS OF SACHS, 14245 Berry Hill Court (212-98-ZP-SD); A request for a
Site Development Permit for a landscape screening plan. Approved November
10, 1998 with conditions.
9. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned by consensus at 9:05 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Lani Smith
Planning Secretary