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FINAL Minutes of Special Meeting of Monday January 22, 2018
Scribe: Alisa Bredo
1.Call to Order (roll call)
a.PWC Chair called the meeting to order at: 7:01
Members Associates
Alisa Bredo (AB)
Nick Dunckel (ND)
Ann Duwe (AD)
Melissa Dyrdahl (MD)
Bob Elson (BE)
Val Metcalfe (VM)
Rachelle Mirkin (RM)
Bridget Morgan (BM)
Judy Nagy (JN)
Sonja Wilkerson (SW)
Denise Williams (DW)
Susan Cretekos (SC)
(until 8:06)
Eileen Gibbons (EG)
Bob Stutz (BS)
(AB, ND, AD, BE, VM, RM, JN, SW, DW)
PWC noted that New Year’s Walk was a success with good weather, great
turnout, and a nice article about the walk in the Town Crier
PWC Chair noted that PWC documents are on a google site that can be
shared with future PWC Chairs
Council Liaison(s) present: Roger Spreen (until 8:10)
Other City Council Members Present: None
Town Staff Present:
Jeremy Koch, Assistant Engineer Public Works Department
Marni Moseley, Sr. Planner (until 9:14)
Members of the public Present:
Kjell Karlsson
Allen Epstein
b.Approval of Agenda
I.One amendment was made to the Agenda: the next pathways walk updated to
Sat. Feb 24
II.AD moved to approve as revised, SW seconded, and the vote was unanimously
in favor (AB, ND, AD, BE, VM, RM, JN, SW, DW)
c.Approval of Minutes from Dec 4, 2017 PWC Meeting:
I.Minor amendments were suggested.
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d.AD moved to approve as amended, ND seconded, and the vote was unanimously in
favor (AB, ND, AD, BE, VM, RM, JN, SW, DW)
e.Ex parte communications
I.Parks & Rec – AB attended Jan Parks & Rec meeting, where it was announced
that PWC approved idea of distributing maps
2.Review of Operating Principles
a.PWC Chair reviewed operating principles from 25Sep2017
3.New Topics & Announcements
a.Staff Updates
I.Staff Update
Jeremy will take over for Allen for foreseeable future.
II.Basset Ln
John Chau and Jeremy and two engineers for Basset developer marked the path
using stakes with red tape. The easement varies in width from 10’ to 40’, so
there are a number of possible routes.
III.Finance asked to remind PWC re: budget requirements for 2018 and to make
desired priorities clear.
a)PWC requested due date(s). Jeremy will find specific due dates and
forward to Rachelle. Roger will also follow up with Carl to make sure
aligned. PWC noted that PWC used to submit priority projects by a
certain date, but cost estimates made by engineering staff later. New
method will require additional costing based on measurements by PWC
prior to submission. Need to understand what is requested by Town.
May also be helpful to see budget available for pathways. Historically
there was not always a fixed budget; depended upon circumstances and
desirability of project. Allen (on Finance and Investment committee)
noted that money has been raised that is allocated for pathways and
PWC can get update on current budget. Some funds are allocated for
specific projects, and need to be re-allocated for these projects if they
are not completed in the year. Budget must be completed before end
of the fiscal year, and guidance regarding priorities and expected cost
will be helpful. Just after Feb the town starts working on the budget.
June 30 is the end of the fiscal year. PWC should have pool of projects
with engineering completed so that Council can choose between
suggested projects.
III.Policies on second units – update from Dec minutes re: current procedure
a)Town Staff clarified that Town is not changing current procedures at this
time, and will continue to send second unit applications to PWC for
recommendations.
IV.GIS update provided by Sr. Planner
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a)Sr Planner noted that the pathway layer is in place on the GIS map, and
working online. It has not been publicized yet; need to make sure
correct first. Once georeferenced, the trail data on the GIS map aligned
better, but it still needs QC from PWC. A subcommittee was selected to
work on the GIS map: AB, AD, JN, BM, EG, ND and VM. This
subcommittee will walk pathways and note any corrections needed to
make the layer accurate. Goal is to figure out what exists currently so
that priorities can be determined. AD requested printout so that PWC
can walk with it. Can also pull up via link on phone.
b)The system currently has address, APN, property owner name, street
address, when built, school district, and lot size.
c)The system does not currently record easements. Per Sr. Planner, the
town is not responsible for easement documents, and not holders of
that data, since easements are recorded by the County. When an
easement is recorded for the benefit of town, LAH sends the
information to the County for filing. Currently easement data is also not
in a format that can plug into GIS.
a.PWC noted that it is essential to have easements readily
available. Ideally, GIS or another Town system, should allow the
ability to click on a parcel and see recorded easement
documents.
b.Council Member Spreen noted that the prior expectation was
that easements would be included in the GIS system.
c.PWC discussed easement records. There are currently 3
notebooks with handwritten pages listing easements on all lots
up to 2005. That information has never been made available
electronically. Prior expectation was that these documents
would be put into the GIS system. From 2005 to the present
there are some documents but not a complete catalogue of
pathway easements. PWC needs to continue to advocate for
resources for this. Roger will follow up with Carl on how best to
move forward.
d)Roadside paths are blue, native paths are green. PWC noted that these
annotations do not quite match other pathways designations on maps.
It also does not include segments on the road where there is road right
of way for the pathways but no path. Segments are defined as stretches
where data stays the same (e.g. same material and width) until street or
change disconnects.
e)Maintenance/condition of pathways was not included in the GIS survey
in the end (it changes too quickly), just impediments (obstructions, etc.)
which are documented as an item in the notes. The project was
completed in May or June of 2017 so segments approved after that date
will need to be added to the system. Some funding remains in the
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contract with Alta. Residents can identify maintenance issues via Los
Altos Hills Connect. Town staff has not yet determined how to connect
app to GIS map.
f)Town Staff to establish process for updating GIS map with newly
constructed paths.
g)The GIS map links to County Assessor’s data via APN. Other layers are
available on map: private vs. public streets, sewer system, etc. Data
???resides at Westbase location. Town consults with a company that
maintains GIS for the sewer system.
h)Approved Master Pathways Map is not yet a layer on the GIS map.
Approved MPP of 2005 was done on CAD , but file is missing.. The
topography layer is the next one that will come online, then one for
contour??? data, and one for geologic hazards. PWC noted that having
the Approved Pathways Map of 2005 data would be very valuable, and
Sr. Planner noted that Town Staff has been trying to pull from old CAD
files.
V.Hale Creek project bidding status update
a)Bid was for same design that was put out for bid late last year. No bids
yet but 23 people took information.
b.Translating 2733 Ursula learnings into action – new process ??? in collaboration with
staff presented by PWC Chair and Roger Spreen
I.Bob and Rachelle met with Roger and Carl to discuss final resolution of Ursula
Ln.
a)4 scenarios were put forward by PWC members:
a.1. Owner moves easement to E. side, and Town builds the path.
b.2. Owner, in addition to items in #1. Above pays an in-lieu fee
c.3. Owner pays olny an in lieu fee
d.4.????
e. Town and Planning Commission were interested in PWC
recommendations despite the imposed limitations (PWC was
asked to limit suggestions to those imposed criteria that should
include easement recommendation in current location and
move forward with in lieu fee). ??????????
b)Some lessons will be implemented in future:
a.The Site Development Checklist (used for Town to review plans)
will be updated to include pathways as a specific item, which
will give the opportunity to ensure a more upfront review.
b.Pathways are already required to be on civil drawings but that
will now be a requirement prior to submission.
c.Paths should be installed with subdivision improvements such
as driveways, drainage, walkways, etc. and not after home has
been completed, as per Town ordinances
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d.Town has agreed to professional analysis (paid by town) on
difficult lots to understand full picture before it comes to PWC
for review.
e.Staking will be required and there will be an opportunity for
PWC ? to review the staking.
c)Kjell Karlsson noted that contrary to the Ursula homeowner’s
statement, the PWC did not impose pathway in the location chosen, but
instead gave the homeowners a choice. The natural path existed for 50
years prior to development on the other side of the property. The
developer was the one who designed the path in another location. PWC
questioned this at the time. The Town accepted a design very different
from that recommended by the PWC IF the western side of the lot was
used. A path was a condition of approval, and the homeowner would
have to deliver on the promised path. Neighbor noted in 2009 that
property line not accurate but this was not addressed until 2017. When
addressed, the path route had to be revised in a way that made it even
more expensive.
d)Council Member Spreen noted that easement is currently in place, will
not go away, and technically at this point property owner is still
required to build path, but that is not likely to happen.
e)VM suggested that on parcels where pathways are required, the
developer put money in escrow to put pathway in. This would relieve
burden from homeowner.
f)Town plans to apply lessons learned on Ursula to the Bassett subdivision
(like staking of path).
g)Prior action is technically in effect????, which is for it??? to be referred
to Planning Commission with PWC making recommendation.
h)PWC discussed the time PWC spent over last few years on the Ursula
property and how to ensure that it doesn’t happen
again/recommendations heard. How does PWC ensure that required
paths installed as planned before house built and plans change?
c.Property Review
I.26925 Orchard Hill Ln (New Residence & Pool). Lands of Schott, APN 175-24-
044
Off-road path at the end of the cul-de-sac so per PWC procedures should
request path. AD noted that the neighboring property installed plantings and
water system over path. There is a path on the same side of the street on either
side of the property. ND moved that the homeowners at 26925 Orchard Hill ln
install a IIB pathway in the road right-of-way and if necessary on an easement,
separated from the road as much as possible. BE seconded, and the vote was
unanimously in favor (AB, ND, AD, BE, VM, RM, JN, SW, DW). PWC noted that
this path is also a safe route to school.
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II.25788 (Lot 2 of 25700) Bassett Lane project ( File 404-17-ZP-SD-GD). Note that
Town switched addresses with other 25700 parcel due to the recorded map and
the options on locations of driveways. The previous parcel that was 25700 is
now 25788 Bassett Ln). APN 336-43-013, Lands of ??
PWC noted that there was a staking of the path with stakes labelled ‘pathway’
when PWC reviewed the property, and that the staking was helpful. In the past
sometimes a PWC representative walked with the developer to understand
where the path should be. Pink stakes were the easement lines and the red
ribbon was the? ?engineering department proposed path. PWC discussed
potential drainage issues since the proposed path crossed the swale three
times, and suggested the possible need for drainage pipes. Developer’s engineer
was with town staff and put geo-coordinates of path on CAD. PWC noted that
neighbors can plant to retain privacy, since they will have notice of impending
paths, and the property owners can also do the same. At this point PWC revised
scope of discussion to include only Lot 1. Requirement for lot 1 is to provide a
path over the private road. PWC discussed status of subdivision and noted that
ordinances require that paths be put in along with other infrastructure
improvements. but Council allowed them to do it after development instead in
this case. Full subdivision was accepted except for developing the path. This is
contrary to current ordinances. PWC at time of subdivision collected easement
on private road. RM moved that the property owner at 25700 Basset ln
reaffirm public access over private road along their Basset Ln frontage and pay
an in lieu fee. BE seconded, and the vote was 8 in favor (AB, ND, AD, BE, VM,
RM, JN, DW) and 1 opposed. (SW). Town staff will determine if this is
possible or not.
III.25788 Basset Ln – Re-review staked pathway
See discussion above. Lot 2 had the proposed off-road path staked. A pathway
easement existed since 1957 as an equestrian and pedestrian trail easement.
PWC noted that there is a lot of water coming down that slope. PWC was
concerned with 3 crossings of swale with current layout (would require multiple
bridges, drainage pipes, etc.), and preferred reducing the crossings to 1. The
top could also be angled to reduce the slope. Easement is 60’ going down to
30’. PWC discussed advantages and disadvantages of detailing path location.
May need PWC subcommittee to review and work with Town Engineer and
Developer engineer to discuss further and bring recommendation back to next
PWC meeting. A subcommittee was appointed: BE, AD, ND. Sr. Planner noted
that current easement ends before reaching Rhus Ridge Rd. PWC needs plan set
for 27588 Bassett (only 27500 was provided). Need this with lot lines and
easement lines shown. RM moved for 27588 Bassett Ln for the Town Engineer
Jeremy and Owner engineer and PWC subcommittee including AD, BE, and ND
to meet and bring a recommendation back to the next PWC meeting. SW
seconded, and the motion passed unanimously (AB, ND, AD, BE, VM, RM, JN,
SW, DW).
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IV.27881 Baker Ln (New Residence, APN: 175-57-012)
This property is a corner lot off of Purissima Rd. There is a roadside Pathway on
Purissima currently and no path on the Baker Ln. frontage. PWC noted that the
Master Path Plan shows a proposed off road path off of Baker Ln. Baker lane
also has >8 residences, so should have a path. However, the opposite side of
road looked like a much better place to put a path on Baker Ln. due to drainage
swale on the 27881 property. ND moved that PWC request an in lieu fee from
the homeowners at 27881 Baker Ln and also request that after the
construction phase of the project that they restore the pathway on Purissima
to IIB standards. BE seconded and vote passed unanimously (AB, ND, AD, BE,
VM, RM, JN, DW, SW).
V.23281 Mora Heights Way (New Residence)
This property is currently undergoing annexation, and is a flag lot. RM moved
that 23281 Mora Heights Way pay an in lieu fee. BE seconded, and the vote
passed unanimously (AB, ND, AD, BE, VM, RM, JN, SW, DW). ?????PW
member noted as a point of clarification that for developments in newly
annexed areas the PWC should note that for each property where PWC is taking
an in lieu fee as a result of operating without an approved Master Path Plan for
that area (as ordered by Town Council), Town Council is going against Town
ordinances in ruling that in lieu fee should be taken instead of following General
Plan, and PWC should add rider ‘under protest’. Reference Goal 4 of general
plan. An alternative would be to take an in lieu fee and ask for easement
instead, which would allow building of pathways in future. As it is, the newly
annexed areas are being denied the access to pathways that the rest of town
has. (I would omit all of words back to the question marks.) Additional note:
this parcel requested annexation, but everything around this parcel is currently
outside Town boundaries.
a.Native path specifications.
I.ND presented an overview of current and proposed path
specifications.[Attachment?] Currently there are no approved native path
specifications. There are currently 5 approved IIB path specification documents.
Currently town paths have slopes up to 40% (path near Matadero Creek, which
interestingly has held up fine with no built up support). One subsection is even
62% slope. Most of the current paths are 2-5% side slope, some over 10%.
Some poor path design was discussed (e.g. retaining boards with supports on
wrong side, etc.) Suggested recommendation was for slopes >10% to generally
require water bars, and >20% to require steps. Height can also be
compensated for by switchbacks. Tread height is 6-10” for steps. Water bars
should be spaced with 1 bar per 12” feet. Tread length and slope suggestions
were provided. Retaining board requirement also suggested for cross-slopes.
Vegetation clearance/management suggestion also included. PWC discussed 7’
suggested width for clearance and noted that not all native paths would be that
wide – when paths meander they may have 5’ or less clearance. PWC suggested
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adding ?variability to guidelines since, particularly for native paths, conditions
may warrant flexibility.
II.AD suggested the use of split rail fences rather than the round or 1”x 6” boards
for handrails to better match the rural feel of the town.
III.PWC suggested to add ‘preferred’ terminology for the width, and to clarify the
first bullet on the presentation for slope (no additional), to investigate railings
and also to capture that when necessary sand or gravel can be added to the
surface of a native path as needed to prevent the path’s becoming boggy in
winter.
IV.Additional suggestion to add ‘retaining boards/retention solution is required for
overall cross slope gradients >15% before grading’ to native path specifications.
V.PWC noted that it may also be necessary to find a way to verify compacting of
IIB paths (should be 90-95%), and discussed IIB standard materials.
VI.PWC Chair recommended that native path specifications (as amended) go to
Town to flush out further, to then go to Town Engineering and Council.
4.Continuing Business
a.Meeting report-outs
AD went to City Council meeting last Thu. Sterling subdivision was under
discussion and will go back to Planning Commission for further
recommendations
b.CIP Projects
Currently there are 26 potential projects. Each PWC member has chosen a
project to promote. Currently 4 are in progress:
a)Summerhill ( in progress)
b)Page Mill at Moon Lane (in progress)
c)Altamont Plunge – DW presented. BE priced out. Can document and
file so Town has a copy. [Attachment?]
d)Fremont Rd to Redwood Grove – AD-presented on a potential
connection to the Redwood Grove. Can do native path with switchback
instead of having stairs, would just need to clear ivy. Entered
measurements and came out with cost of $20k. Need to refine
materials and get some estimates. [Attachment?]
II.Matadero Creek path – move fence to redo closed part of path to allow for
switchback. AD will talk to homeowner. Hoermeown has already been
approached by Council member.
c.Marketing/Communications
(a)New Year’s Day walk went well, article in Town Crier
(b)Want to write article on PWC in Town Newsletter, explaining function of PWC to get
exposure/branding. However missed deadline for next newsletter. If PWC wants to
schedule another walk in summer, they can. Parks & Rec does senior walk every
month. In the past PWC did history walk and also a shared walk with equestrians,
both were very successful. History walk was day of Town Picnic; walkers parked at
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Town Hall and walked over to Purissima. This worked very well, PWC may consider
similar for a summer walk.
(c)Estimates for cost to send map to each resident $5800-6200. AD drafted letter,
Parks & Rec added. 1 correction to make to existing walking map, so will make that
update prior to printing additional maps.
5.Presentations from the floor
There were no presentations from the floor.
6.Next pathway walk: Sat, Feb 24
Next pathway meeting: Mon, Feb 26
7.Request topics for the next agenda
8.Adjournment: Meeting was adjourned at 10:07pm.
The minutes of the January 22, 2018 regular Pathways Committee were approved with edits at the
February 26, 2018 regular Pathways Committee.