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Minutes of Meeting on Monday June 4, 2018
Scribe: Alisa Bredo
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1.Call to Order (roll call)
a.PWC Chair called the meeting to order at: 7:02pm
Members Associates
Alisa Bredo (AB)
Nick Dunckel (ND)
Ann Duwe (AD)
Melissa Dyrdahl (MD)
Bob Elson (BE)
Val Metcalfe (VM)
Rachelle Mirkin (RM)
Bridget Morgan (BM)
Judy Nagy (JN) (7:54)
Sonja Wilkerson (SW)
Denise Williams (DW)
Susan Cretekos (SC)
Eileen Gibbons (EG)
Bob Stutz (BS)
(AB, ND, AD, MD, BE, VM, RM, BM, JN, SW, DW)
Council Liaison(s) present: Roger Spreen
Other City Council Members Present:
Town Staff
Carl Cahill, City Manager
Allen Chen, Public Works Director/City Engineer
Jeremy Koch, Assistant Engineer Public Works Dept.
Marni Moseley, Sr. Planner
Other:
Members of the public Present:
Kjell Karlsson
Stacy Olgado (Re: Moody/Becky Ln)
Ann Bennett (Re: Moody/Becky Ln)
Greg Goumas (Re: Bledsoe Ct.)
Les Earnest
2.Review of Agenda
a.AD moved to move Moody and Becky Ln discussions to the top of the Agenda, and to
add VTA meeting update to presentations from the floor. BE seconded, and the
motion passed unanimously (AB, ND, AD, MD, BE, VM, RM, BM, JN, SW, DW).
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3.Approval of Minutes from Feb and April PWC Meetings:
a.Minutes from Feb 26, 2018:
I.AD suggested some edits to the draft minutes
II.MD moved to approve minutes with AD updates, SW seconded, and the
motion passed with all in favor (AB, AD, MD, BE, VM, RM, BM, JN, SW, DW)
except ND who abstained due to computer problem which did not allow
review.
b.Minutes from April 23, 2018:
I.SW, DW, and BE abstained because they were not present at the meeting, and
some others had not had a chance to review the minutes. As a result there
were not enough remaining PWC members to form a quorum and review of the
minutes was tabled until the next meeting (June 25).
4.Announcements, Updates, and Ex Parte Communications:
a.Ex Parte Communications
I.BM spoke with Steve Padovan and with property owners on Becky Ln.
b.Town Picnic
I.EG, SC, AD, VM, ND all helped. Positive feedback on pathways loops available in
town.
c.Staff Updates - will have elections next month.
5.Presentations from the floor
a.SC provided update on VTA committee. VTA agreed that a grant proposal should be
completed for Fremont Rd. Lawsuit is still on but they are accepting proposals. VTA
member cannot do the proposal, so PWC will need to provide proposal for it to be
considered for Measure B. Previously for Fremont Rd Town did feasibility and
preliminary design at the same time. PWC may need to find prior documents, but
unknown where they are.
I.PWC Chair will contact Allen to help find past proposal if possible (was from
~2010-2011, accepted ~2013
II.AD will follow up with Breene Kerr to see if he has prior proposal or notes
III.Jeremy to find out if anything is needed from PWC and what the process is
from past proposal
b.Les Earnest provided a document [Attachment A] of suggestions to the PWC regarding
blocked paths, signage, and pathways missing from the current Master Pathways Plan.
c.Les Earnest also noted that the Bob Stutz Path was originally intended to be a bike path
when proposed in 1990’s, which would allow commuting access from the South side of
Town to Foothill College. He suggested reinstituting that plan, and noted that
gravelizing the surface would make it work for bikes, and is fairly inexpensive.
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6.Staff and Town updates
a.Study of in-lieu fee calculations
I.A consultant has been chosen, should provide consultation on June 22-29. BE
and BM requested to sit in on meetings if possible.
b.Elena subdivision at Taaffe
I.The town submitted plans but don’t have tentative map yet. Unclear whether
2, 3, or 4 lots. Once preliminary plans are submitted, PWC will have chance to
review. There is a pathway easement shown on plans along the freeway. BE
noted that it would be preferable to connect to Taaffe pathway, and would be
helpful for PWC to be able to provide input on path prior to plan development.
BM noted that there is option to provide input after tentative map stage, but
not prior.
c.GIS Update
I.All current data is in the GIS system, but the public version is filtered. When
logged in as staff, the filter broke. Town is now doing a public version without
private data and private version, which public cannot access. BM raised concern
about rationale for Town to collect the personal info, even if available publicly
from county (loan institution, amount, owner name, etc.). Jeremy noted that
there has been some discussion about what should and should not be shown
publicly, even though all is public data. It was unclear who from Town Staff will
be in charge of GIS system going forward. PWC Chair noted that PWC has had
many suggestions/corrections for GIS map and will need to be in contact
regarding GIS map going forward, as responsible staff is identified. PWC Chair
will keep GIS update on the agenda in the meantime. Some corrections to the
pathways map were submitted to town, and will be manually altered, but other
corrections were not yet submitted.
d.CIP Project Selection
I.Budget will be approved at the June Town Council meeting. As of last Town
Council meeting Gardner Bullis funding was cut from 124k to 40k (Council felt it
was overly costly), so more will be done in-house. BE requested staff report to
Town regarding proposed costs of PWC projects. The proposed list of pathways
projects was presented to Town Council and Finance Committee May 30, and
there has not yet been a vote. Final budget goes to June Council meeting for
vote (allocation of funds only). BE noted that Bullis project should come back
to PWC for review.
e.Redwood Grove
I.No update
f.Hardcopy easement and path condition documents
I.JN scanned easement and condition documents from Sue Welch (prior PWC
Secretary) and will send to AB [Attachment B – JN to send] and Jeremy
(Assistant Engineer Public Works).
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7.Property review [See Attachment C for Property Overview shared prior to meeting by ND]
a.25380 Becky Ln Re-review (Lands of Fei Li, APN 182-16-027, new development)
PWC Chair summarized prior recommendation and rationale, noting that the
previous PWC request was for a 10’ easement on the Moody Rd. frontage, with
an in lieu fee. There was some discussion about practicality of a path on the N.
side of Moody due to topography (steep bank) and the existing path on the S.
side of Moody. Other properties nearby on Moody do not currently have
connecting easements. BM spoke with Steve Padivan, the residents and
neighbors, who object to the proposed easement, and visited the back yard of
the property in question. She noted that there were many heritage oaks in the
way, a path on the bank would be very intrusive, and a path at road level would
require a retaining wall, so the potential path would be problematic. DW noted
that per Master Path Plan Moody Rd is designated a 2-sided road. PWC agreed
that the likelihood of building a path there is very low, but if it were to be built in
future this would be the time to collect the easement. A path could be on top of
the hill with a retaining wall, and still remain within the road ROW. AD noted
that there was an old ‘bench road,’ most likely within the road ROW, and
suggested taking the easement in case it were necessary to build a path in
future. BE noted that if it were ever actually built the decision of where the path
would be built could be made then – it could be part way up bank or at bottom.
Stacy Olgado spoke for the owners, noting concern about privacy, the steep
slope, and also the noise of Moody Rd, which is buffered by the trees. Ann
Bennet (neighbor) noted that a path would be very intrusive and impact oak
trees, erosion. Greg Goumas (neighbor) noted that path on the other side of the
street works well and believes the proposed one to be unnecessary. EG noted
that if an easement were taken it would not be built in the near future and
would not mean that the pathway would be put in. EG also noted that other 2-
sided roads don’t build on steep areas. BE questioned whether Council will keep
Moody as designated 2-sided road or not, and suggested that if so, should
maintain consistency and request easement as PWC has for others. PWC had
some discussion over maintaining consistency vs. taking individual characteristics
into account, and JN noted that a path could be built in the road ROW in future if
needed, without needing an easement. ND noted that priority for this path is
very low in comparison to other projects. AB noted that if an in lieu fee is
requested for the property at this point, a path could not be requested at a date
in future. Councilmember Spreen clarified that an easement could be requested
at a future development date, but confirmed that no in lieu fee or path build
could be requested of the homeowner. ND moved that PWC recommend to not
build a pathway at 25380 Moody and that the town request an in lieu fee and
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no easement. BM seconded and the motion passed with 6 in favor (VM, RM,
BM, DW, ND, SW) and 4 (AB, BE, AD,MD?,JN?) opposed.
b.13210 E. Sunset Dr. (APN 175-27-019, new development)
BE noted that road is designated to have a path, and the parcel is on a cul-de-sac with
>8 lots and no path on the opposite side of the road. There is a path farther down the
road. PWC noted that any path along E. Sunset would need to be right next to the road.
The off road pathways map noted a desired path at the bottom of the parcel. Les
Earnest was the originator of the proposal and noted that best route is along the creek
at bottom of the property, and that the path would ultimately link to Los Altos. AD
noted that path along the creek is suggested to be on the MPP but is missing because it
has not been updated. AD spoke with prior owner 1y ago and they were willing to
consider an easement on east and south sides. PWC could ask the owner to donate an
easement but cannot make the easement a requirement or condition of approval since
it is not on the current MPP. Prior motion in last review in 2016 was to request the
easement for a path at the bottom side. Path would provide opportunity to walk to
downtown Los Altos and potentially connect to Bullis School. BE moved to request a
IIB roadside path on E. Sunset Dr. and to request that the property owner donate a
pathway easement along the south east property line between 13208 and 13254, E.
Sunset Dr along the town and property boundary. JN seconded and the motion
passed with 10 in favor (AB, ND, MD, BE, VM, RM, BM, JN, SW, DW) and 1 opposed
(AD, who wanted a connector to E. Sunset Dr.)
c.12791 Normandy Ln (APN 175-40-006, conversion to second unit)
PWC noted that there is a path is on the other side of the street. ND recommended
that the PWC request an in lieu fee. BE seconded, and the motion passed
unanimously (AB, ND, AD, MD, BE, VM, RM, BM, JN, SW, DW).
d.13581 Wildcrest Dr. (APN 175-36-021, new development)
PWC has reviewed Wildcrest Drive previously. Town has easements across 13643,
13581, and 13303 Wildcrest Drive. An off-road pathway build was rejected due to the
large cost proposal ($400k), but easements are in place. Town conducted a study to
come up with a new cost estimate. ND proposed reviewing in later June to allow more
time to review details of prior work done at this location. Lower part of property is in a
conservation easement, so should be possible design path that would stay away from
the creek. PWC chair postponed review until the next PWC Meeting (June 25, 2018).
BE expressed interest in reviewing the prior $400k proposal to see if alternative build
options (such as native path) would reduce cost.
e.13439 Mandoli Dr. (APN 175-42-026, addition & basement)
AD noted that a pathway loop in that neighborhood would be desirable, but not on the
property in question. ND recommended an in lieu fee. BE seconded, and the motion
passed unanimously (AB, ND, AD, MD, BE, VM, RM, BM, JN, SW, DW).
8.Pathway Promotion, Pathway naming recommendations; presentation to council
a.Pathways Naming Recommendations
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MD presented on decisions behind naming pathways [Attachment D]. Currently, named
paths are in honor of people who worked on a pathway or donated a path or are
‘celebrated members of our community’. Per Master Path Plan Policy 4.14, “Major off-
road paths should be named as a way to encourage their use and to recognize historical
entities associated with the Town or to honor Town residents who have contributed to
the development of the system.” PWC discussed whether property owners near a
named path should be notified or participate in the naming decision, and noted that all
PWC activities are noticed, and PWC discussed pro and cons of notification. SW
suggested adding a future agenda topic regarding standardizing signage. RS clarified
that there is currently no sign standard for named paths, and large signs recently
implemented for creek naming are unrelated. Many PWC members preferred signs like
native path signs to draw attention to the native paths. BE suggested that whoever
proposes naming should also be responsible for completing the research/justification
behind the request. PWC could give criteria to requestors, and leave to them to prove
eligibility. MD will update criteria per discussion and bring back to PWC for review.
b.Pathway Promotion
I.Our Town Newsletter - PWC will have a feature in the July Our Town Newsletter
a)Marketing team solicited suggestions for topics. Suggestions included
an article on the neighborhood pull for paths, overview of what PWC
does and new process for CIP projects, possibly combine the two and
add description of Pathways CIP fund, safe routes to school and
walkability to town, overview of Pathways Element, and something
similar to the Open Space Guideline (2p. overview of what committee
does). A prior Pathways Guideline was drafted previously. AD to send
to RM to agendize for a future discussion.
b)BM noted that Bob Stutz connector should not be used as example path
because cyclone fence is currently blocking the way.
II.Activity Guide – PWC will have a spread in the fall Activity Guide
c.Annual Presentation to Town Council
I.PWC to email topics to Rachelle for presentation to Council. RM will circulate
current draft. BM suggested explaining recently implemented process of having
one PWC member do deep-dive into each property and provide details. [ND’s
chart as example], BE noted that it would also be helpful to outline the new
process for estimating CIP pathway project costs. Historically the Town Council
would provide funding out of the General Fund for certain pathways projects.
Additional suggestion to provide an update on how the GIS update to be more
informative to help council make better decisions.
9.Open Discussion
10.Next pathway walk: June 23, 2018
Next pathway meeting: June 25, 2018
a.AB will not be able to attend so back-up Secretary will be needed for minutes
11.Adjournment
a.Meeting was adjourned at 9:45pm