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HomeMy WebLinkAboutFinal Minutes January 24LOS ALTOS HILLS PATHWAY COMMITTEE SPECIAL MEETING Minutes for Jan 24th, 2005, 6:00 P.M. 1. ROLL CALL, 6:00 P.M., 25890 Fremont Road, Multi-Purpose Room A. CALL TO ORDER Meeting was called to order by the Chairman at 6.14pm. B. ROLL CALL Present Absent Ann Duwe ______ X_____ Anna Brunzell ___Y__ _____ Nick Dunkel __ Y___ _____ Nancy Ewald __Y____ _____ Nancy Ginzton __Y___ _____ Mike Kamangar __Y____ _____ Dubose Montgomery __Y ___ _____ Ginger Summit __Y____ _____ Bob Stutz __Y____ _____ Chris Vargas __Y____ _____ Jolon Wagner __Y____ _____ C. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Motion by: Dubose to approve the agenda Seconded by: Mike K Vote: Aye: ___all____ Nay: ___0___ Abstain: _0____ 2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES A. Nov 22nd, 2004 Meeting Motion by: GS to be approved with corrections as noted. Seconded by: __ND Vote: Aye: _____6__ Nay: _0_____ Abstain: 2_____ B. Dec 6th, 2004 Meeting Motion by: GS to be approved with corrections as noted. Seconded by: ___ND Vote: Aye: _7______ Nay: ______ Abstain: ___1__ C. Jan 10th, 2004 Meeting - Motion by: Postoned Seconded by: _______ Vote: Aye: _______ Nay: ______ Abstain: _____ 3. COMMUNICATIONS A. PRESENTATIONS FROM THE FLOOR (DISCUSSION): Persons wishing to address the Committee on any subject related to pathways may do so now. Please note that the Committee can only listen to your issue if it is not on this evening’s agenda, not respond or take action. Presentations are limited to three (3) minutes. The Committee may decide to place your issue on the agenda of its next meeting. Questions from the floor.: Les: Raising issue of master plan not ready and needs to be resolved. Jolon agrees with Les and wants to make sure the committee does not hand a can of worms to the planning commission. Bahlman, Harry: Cars driving on pathway in the central drive area – Buena Vista. The pathway in question is a link between Zappetini and Central DR. B. Meeting Schedule a. Next Regular Meeting: February 28th. Feb 10th is the planning commission hearing at 7pm. March 8th, scheduled meeting for council hearing 6.30pm on pathway map. b. Next Pathway Walk: Feb 26th 8.30 am. C. General Discussions (DISCUSSION) Committee members discuss any items of mutual interest, including any information that has occurred since the previous Board meeting. 4. NEW BUSINESS: A. Review of Master Pathway Plan Offroad Pathways update process (DISCUSSION/ACTION). Review the process of how the Pathway Committee produced the Pathway Working Map Recommendations. The Planning Commission members and members of the Council have been invited to this review session, in preparation for next month’s public hearings. Review process, discussion and answer any questions. B. 1. Chris explains the recommended pathway map, its purpose and the process the committee followed to come up with the final proposal. Attendees: Eric Cloud – Planning commission Bill Kerns- Planning commission Ray Collins – Planning commission Bart Carey – Planning commission Breene Kerr maire pro term Craig Jones – Council member Dean Warshowsky - Council member (arrived at 6.50pm) A small team has spent every Friday for the past 18 months to assure the accuracy of the map with easements and existing paths. The binder with records of easements with streets starting with S-Z is missing. Fondhele has sent e-mail about easement error on the map. The owner is claiming that the path is in non existing although an easement exist and it was on the 1994 map. The pathway committee could not vote or take any action on this property because its current status as “Green” Map classifications explained by Chris (and shown on the map): 1. Green class one, there is an easement, there is a path and it is in use. 2. Blue: Class 2 Future path with easement 3. Blue Class 3: Future path with no easement 4. Purple: class 4. Recommended future path to add. This is mainly paths that have slightly shifted its direction in one area. Purple was not on the 1981 master map. 5. Red, remove from master plan 6. Orange: Corner cases that could not fit into any other bucket. Retains flexibility for future use (connection W sunset and E sunset which is a native path only used by local neighbors and for safety reason it is not recommended to be be on the master plan). 7. Arrows: Desire to connect arrows when property is subdivided. Exact path way can not be shown until property is subdivided and new property lines defined. ACTION: add legend to the master plan Chris is asking how the residents can challenge a path that is currently classified as “green”. The recommendation is to ask the resident to challenge the path to the map committee and then to the planning commission. Chris is reviewing the “hot spot” areas and is telling the planning commission to expect residents from those areas to appear at the public hearing. The pathway committee is suggesting that the planning commission visit all of the hotspot areas prior to the public hearing. Those specific areas are: Camino Medio B.2.5. Residents in that area don’t believe that this is an existing path Voorhees D.3.1 D3.2a D3.3a. Some easements are in existence. This stretch was on the 1981 plan. Sunset east west connector: C2.3 C2.8. West Sunset is Private, East Sunset is Public. C2.3 is for neighborhood use only and not to be shown on the city map. C2.8 connects a big number of residents with the town. Some easements exist. Also a valuable emergency route. The pathway committee is asking the planning commission to help preserving this path for future use by thinking of new ways of keeping a path without showing it on the public map, this could include creating a new class of paths (Class Z?). Arastradero A1.9: Path is not used because it has been blocked. Some easements exist. D4.2A. The recommendation was to make this red because of residents and topography reasons. The pathway committee was divided in deciding on this area. The fire department has also raised issues with fighting a fire from above. The purple was a compromise to connect Magdalena and Fernhill. The best route for the purple stars on Fernhill between 2557 and 25862 and it ends on Magdalena between 10511 and 10531. Murietta to Francemont: Connecting Hidden Villa is not part of this proposal. Goal is to connect Rancho to Moody. Today we only have the Rhus Ridge connection. The residents issue is around parking and cars driving on the roads. The land above Murietta is Town owned land and the land to the east is a conservatory easement. This is now landlocked land. The pathway committee feels strongly about opening up the town own land to the town’s residents. B2.27 B2.2a, B2.2b, B2.2c. The purple is a new proposed route along driveways. The B2.27 is replacing B2.2a that has privacy issues. Taaffe and Almaden ct. Residents do not want additional connections between almaden and Taaffe. The committee made a recommendation to connect Taaffe and Black Mountain Rd. Natoma to Elena B3.22 goes through a deep V-shaped creek. Proposal is to be on the south side but no easements exist on that side. Easement exists on the North side. The Ad-Hoc map committee is asking the council to consider the on road and private pathways. C. SCC Advisory Commission for the Disabled (DISCUSSION). Jim Bliss from the Santa Clara County Advisory Commission for the Disabled will join us for a discussion on issues relating to access for the Disabled. Roger Petersen and Jim Bliss. ACC is a 15 member commission appointed by county board of supervisor. The SCC commission advises super visor about making the county accessible to people with disabilities. VTA is required to provide para transit ¾ of a mile from a VTA route. Q: Would there be funds available to provide a paved access route to foothill college? A from Roger: Maybe through VTA. Les: Curbs should be wheel chair accessible but are not typically built that way. There is an example of a person being stuck on one of the city’s paths. Ginger: What are the requirements or guidelines to build a path that comply with the disabled needs. Disabled is not only people with walking disabilities, blindness is also a disability. Signs could have raised letters. There is one path around La paloma and purissima that the city put in for a blind resident. Chris: The paths most likely to be considered for disabled access are the roadside paths. Chris will send Jim and Roger’s contact information to the pathway committee. Anna: Have they worked with any other city similar to LAH such as Portola Valley that also ahs an extensive off road trail system and are the any learning from that work. Roger: PV is in San Mateo county and there are no similar examples in santa clara county. D. Recommendation on properties: (ACTION) i. 12681 Miraloma Way (Lands of Breetwor) 1. There is a ditch on Miraloma. Path can still be built with some kind of bridge structure. Motion by ND to require owner of 12681 Miraloma to put in a II-B path along Miraloma, easement to be verified and to be acceptable to town engineer. Second by JD. 9 in favor. ii. 25701 Deerfield Drive (Lands of Unlu) 1. Motion by DM to request a road side path to put in on 25701 Deerfield subject to town engineer. second by ND favor 8, abstain 1. iii. 26030 Newbridge Road (Lands of Rumi, new residence) 1. Motion collect in-lieu fee instead of a path. Motion by ND second by JW. 9 favor. iv. 11261 Magdalena Road (Lands of Kearns, 2nd unit) 1. Motion by RS: For path to be put in along Magdalena subject to the town engineer. Second by ND. 9 in favor. v. 23923 Jabil Lane (Lands of Jarvis, new residence) 1. Motion by DB to table this decision to the next meeting. Second by MK. 2 favor 7 oppose. 2. Motion by GS: Motion to ask the Planning Commission to request an easement for a pathway, IF the Council approves to retain a connection on this property as part of the Offroad Master Pathway Plan. If the Council does not approve a connection across this property, the Pathway Committee will recommend an in-lieu fee for this property. Second by NS. 8 favor, 1 oppose. vi. 26910 DezaHara Way (Lands of Beheshti) – Added 1. Not enough information prior to the meeting to discuss this property. E. Los Altos Hills Relay for Life (ACTION). Ken Clifford from the American Cancer society will discuss the upcoming “Relay for Life” Jun 25-26th and suggest ways the Pathway Committee can help support this event. i. Postponed to later meeting F. Creation of Sub-Committees (ACTION). Nominate members to form the following sub-committees: Capital Improvements, Community Relations and Pathway Maintenance. Nominate 2-3 people per subcommittee. i. Nancy Ewald ii. Jolon Wagner iii. Bob Stutz. iv. Anna Brunzell G. Pathway on Central Drive (ACTION). The Committee will discuss the issue of a roadside pathway along Central Drive. This issue was requested to be put on the agenda by Committee members and residents at the Dec 6th Special Meeting. i. Harry Bahlman: Wants support for a path along central. The road will be paved and Harry is asking for the committees support for a path for horses, walkers and bikers. ii. Eric Cloud: The request for a path is to be on the east side of Central (west wind barn side). Eric is asking the committee to add it to the capital improvement list. iii. Harry Bahlman: If the path is put in, would the city maintain the path. Chris answered that the city would have the responsibility to maintain the path once it has been put in. iv. Only part of the road has easements for a path. The plan is to add 3 feet to the road along the part that does not have an easement, but there will not be a separate path there. The committee clarified that the part without easements can not be maintained by the city and that the design of the path needs to be approved by town engineer. v. Harry Bahlman: In the neighborhood the majority of the residents are against asphalt. The neighbors are OK with asphalt if there is a horse friendly trail in addition. The neighbors are also looking into different road surface material that are more horse friendly. vi. Ginger: Central is already on the master pathway plan. What is the city policy for the town to pay for paths? vii. Dot, in the past, on Edgerton, the city requested that the residents on that road fund the path. viii. Harry Bahlman: Cars are driving on the paved connection between Central and Buena Vista. There is a proposal to block the road for cars but still maintain it as an emergency access. ix. DuBose: Add a pathway sign. x. Recommendation that the town install Pathway signs and prevent unauthorized vehicle access motion by JD second by BS. All in favor. 5. REQUESTS TOPICS FOR NEXT MONTH’S MEETING A. Possibly create other subcommittees. Other topics e-mail to Chris. 6. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at motion to adjourn by RS second by ND. all in favor .