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Minutes of June 28, 2004 meeting
1. MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER AT 6:08 pm, Bullis School, multipurpose room
Present: Chris Vargas (CV), Chair, Ginger Summit (GS), Vice Chair, Nancy Ewald (NE), Mike
Kamangar (MK), Nancy Ginzton (NG), Secretary, DuBose Montgomery (DM), Bob Stutz (BS)
Absent: Richard Cassam (DC), Fred Fallah (FF), Jorge Fernandes (JF), Charlene Geers(CG)
Also present: Ad-hoc committee members: Dot Schreiner, Carol Gottlieb, Les Earnest
Planning Commissioners: Eric Clow, Ray Collins
Approval of agenda. Approved with 2 changes: Micheletti (6A) will be 1st; Eric Clow (5B) will be 2nd.
Unanimous approval.
2. REVIEW OF MINUTES
May 24, 2004 meeting. Approved with 1 correction: under ‘Planning Commission Meeting
report’ it should read 10 years, not 0. Unanimous approval.
June 14, 2004 meeting. Not done.
3. COMMUNICATIONS
Presentations from the floor. None.
Meeting schedule
Motion: move that we skip July; come back refreshed in August. Unanimous approval.
Next pathway inspection walk: August 21 at 8:30 am
Next regular Pathway Committee meeting: August 23 at 6:00 pm
CV to remind Carl about room use.
Special PC Public input meetings to review Phase 1 recommendations:
August 30, 31, Sept. 1
Planning Commission Public Hearings to review Phase 1 recommendations:
Sept. 28, 29, 30
General discussion.
Path etiquette. Carol G brought in 2 excerpts about pathways and path etiquette. She
and NE will put something together for the Town Newsletter, pulling from them and our 5/24/04 PC
meeting.
4. REPORTS FROM COMMITTEES AND COUNCIL MEMBERS
Presentations before the Planning Commission: Eric Clow of Planning would like someone from the PC
to be at their meetings, representing the path recommendations; to provide
explanations/background/rationale as needed; with only the owners present, it is a one-sided presentation,
and Planning may not be receiving a well-balanced picture. CV said that because of the many meetings of
the PC, members have been reluctant to attend lengthy meetings; could the path related items be placed at
the front of the agenda? Eric said they are, but that public items can still drag on. The PC attendee should
have an agenda and have done their homework beforehand.
Master Pathway Map Ad-hoc Committee update.
Council meeting and Planning Commission Meeting reports. Not done.
County S1 Trail update (DC). Not done.
5. NEW BUSINESS
Recommendations on properties:
13389 Wildcrest Drive (Lands of Cho). Owner present. Motion: to collect impact fee.
Unanimous approval.
26230 Calle del Sol (Lands of Mock). Motion: to collect impact fee. Unanimous approval.
12051 Moody Springs Rd. (Land of Eggers). Motion: to collect impact fee. Unanimous approval.
27673 Lupine Rd. (Lands of Alon). Already done.
27891 Lupine Rd. Revisit and review earlier PC recommendation because of new information:
there is a 65 ft road right-of-way from the center of Page Mill (Les). Discussion: where to place the
path. Since the Couperus’ will not allow a dropped easement along the same stretch of road
nearby, a change in path placement at this residence does not make sense. Decision: no change
to recommendation.
Maps for Public Hearings
Discussion points: Need to have Dave Ross get the map online. Maps needed for Public Hearings,
adoption of MPP, and finally a general walking map. Homeowners are interested in what is on/near their
own property. The charge was to revise the MPP; current focus is off-road, need circulation patterns – off-
road in conjuction with on-road. In 1981, the Town Engineer wanted the MPP to be a schematic map
(Carol). Want the primary map to be a ‘story’ map using few colors, with the reference map available. Red
dot information shows: alternate route(s), a balanced presentation (additions/removals). Presentation should
clearly state that no path does not mean easement removal. Scenic paths will not be starred.
• Planned paths from the 1981 MPP (as modified by the 1986 Pathway Element)
• Maps to be presented: Map 1 - paths; Map 2 – easements
• Map 1 paths: existing, planned, proposed additions, proposed deletions. Done in layers.
Layer 1 green existing paths were (pink, dark blue) to (green)
2a dotted green planned paths, in MPP were (red, dark green, light green)
2b dotted green planned paths, not in MPP was (blue)
3 red planned paths in MPP, construction not recommended
under red dot
4 beige all roads
5.2a arrows planned arrows, in MPP
5.2b arrows planned arrows, not in MPP
6 transparent reference dots
7 purple want resident input
Motion: to approve Map 1 as noted. Unanimous approval.
• Map 2 showing all easements in town. Motion: We have an all-inclusive pathway
easement map, one color to be brought to the Public Meeting. This map provided for public
information at all public hearings. Unanimous approval.
• Review accuracy of Phase 1 map recommendations. CV suggests that the map committee
re-check the map for accuracy. They are; would welcome corrections from others.
• Quadrant changes, clarifications
A1.1 green top 2 arrows
A2.8 no change
A3.2a remove dot, keep green line
Eric Clow present. Discussion: has path on 4 sides of his property and that the line
shown is really old Red Rock Rd. Question: how to discriminate between a private
road and fire road? a new color needed? Motion: to remove dot A3.2a, but retain
green line until come up with a better designation. Unanimous approval. Action: ask
Map Committee how private roads might be shown on working map (for
clarification), before the Public Hearing in 2 months.
A3.8 need staff input; non-Town lands with LAH easements
B2.13a to dotted green ‘W-shaped’ easement; easement document unclear
C2.3 no change Sunset; Dave Ross will get original documentation
C2.11a green no change
C2.11b red difficult to build
C2.11c dotted green connection to Atherton Ct
Motion: to approve as noted. Unanimous approval.
C3.3c red too steep; no change
C4.1a green Laura Ct, La Loma Dr connection, southern route
Motion: to approve as noted. Unanimous approval.
(C4.1a and C4.1b routes; keep both, until one is on the ground)
C4.1b green Laura Ct east-west, to C3.7
C3.7 green north-south between 25010, 24990, to C4.1b
To red rest of green between C4.1a, C4.1b, C3.7, C4.4
Motion: to approve as noted. Unanimous approval.
C3.6a green no change
C3.6b 3 arrows towards center of lot (from C3.6a and east corners)
Motion: to approve as noted. Unanimous approval.
(C3.11 sitting atop an easement stub)
C4.5 green end of Olive Tree Rd
Motion: to approve as noted. Unanimous approval.
B1.8 green northernmost part along west side of 280, meets Arastradero
Motion: to approve as noted. Unanimous approval.
• Quadrant B3 (2nd review)
B3.30 add arrow towards Open Space
Motion: to approve as noted. Unanimous approval.
B3.4 blue, with arrow
Motion: to approve as noted. Unanimous approval.
(B3.17 removed from map)
B3.33 green Byrne Park, Julietta connection, in use, no easement
B3.34 green from Byrne Park bulb into Bryne Preserve, in use, no easement
Motion: to approve as noted. Unanimous approval.
B3.6a 2 arrows arrows: from top of B3.6B south,
and from proposed road off Chaparral northward
B3.6b green dot Moody to top of proposed development of 26043 Chaparral
B3.6c green dot top of B3.6b to Altamont Ln
Motion: to approve as noted. Unanimous approval.
VTA Representative appointment
Andy Colman has volunteered to serve as the Town’s representative on the VTA Bicycle
Committee; he needs to be a member of the PC. Discussion: associate members exist in other committees.
Motion: to approve Andy as an associate member. Unanimous approval.
6. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
26271 Moody Rd recommendation (Lands of Micheletti). [GS, MK and DC were to meet with Micheletti,
look at alternative path types and routes, and make a recommendation for the PC as a whole. DC was sick
and unable to be attend.] Micheletti was present. GS recommended IIB roadside, native path on the dip;
MK: native path off-road. Discussion points: road has a wide shoulder and a serviceable gravel path exists,
a IIB roadside path was unnecessary; would like something off-road because of safety concerns; a native
path: width cleared 5-6 ft, height cleared to allow safe equestrian use, no need for header boards. Release
of the Micheletti’s bond is a Town issue. Motion: build a native path, to meander next to the creek;
dimensions subject to terrain, Town Staff and PC chair approval. Leave existing shoulder gravel path as is.
Approved (5-1).
Impact fee. Not done.
Topics for discussion with Engineering staff. Not done.
7. REGULAR BUSINESS
Finance budget review. (CIP balance, Construction balance) Not done.
Capital projects update.
Committed: Miranda (15K CIP), Manuella (15K CIP), Moody (220K VTA, 50K PC),
Page Mill (130K Town (65K 2005, 65 2006), + PC), Robleda 2 portions eroded (quick),
Taaffe to Elena (B3.2c-d), Wild Flower to Newbridge (need 3 signs)
Next on list: Summerhill, Magdalena, Black Mountain to Elena
Community Event support. Not done.
8. REQUESTS FOR TOPICS for nest month’s meeting.
Pathway standards. Town crew having a difficult time maintaining paths, especially with
oleanders. Art would like them planted at least 10 and preferably 15 feet away from the paths
(NG).
9. MEETING disbanded around 9:30 pm