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Minutes for May 24, 2004
MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER at 6:11 pm, Council Chambers, 26379 Fremont Road, LAH
Present: Chris Vargas (CV), Chairman, Ginger Summit (GS), Vice Chairman,
Richard Cassam (DC), Fred Fallah (FF), Jorge Fernandes (JF) (left at 7:50), Charlene
Geers (CG) (arrived at 6:25), Nancy Ginzton (NG), Secretary, Mike Kamangar (MK), Bob
Stutz (BS)
Absent: Nancy Ewald (NE), DuBose Montgomery (DM)
Also present: Adhoc committee members: Carol Gottlieb, Les Earnest
APPROVAL OF AGENDA. Unanimous approval.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
March 15, 2004 meeting. Approved 7-0-2.
April 26, 20004 meeting. Approved 7-0-2.
May 3, 2004 meeting. Approved 8-0-1.
May 10, 2004 meeting with 1 correction. Presentation from the floor: CV reported that it
was Carl Cahill who said that Eric Clau and Janet Vitu were up for reappointment; the
information was not from Eric Clau. Approved 7-0-2.
COMMUNICATIONS:
Presentations from the floor
Marian Robertson from 13331 Wildcrest Dr. (Lands of Williams), which will be up for
recommendation. The property has been seen by several PC members; consensus to
collect an impact fee. Since this item is not on the Agenda, the recommendation will have
to wait until our June 7 meeting.
Meeting Schedule
Next special meetings: June 7, 6:00pm and June 14, 6:00pm
Next Pathway inspection walk: June 26, 8:30am
Next Pathway Committee Meeting: June 28, 6:00pm
General Discussion
Legal status of roads: CG wanted clarification of legal concerns: Voorhees – public-private;
Miraloma. Les E. was interested in W Sunset; Moon Lane (up to Dave Ross, Acting Town
Engineer); Stonebrook Ave (status of County road when taken into Town).
Noticing of proposed new MPP paths: CV had a call from Carl Cahill regarding the 4-8 new
paths proposed (swap and new). CV: plans to review these proposed changes with
residents prior to public hearings; through invitations to special meetings in which
concerns/issues can be expressed/heard. GS agrees that opinions will be taken into
consideration, but wants to impress that the MPP is looking way into the future. CG said
that they affect property values. JF was concerned that maps go to residents; CV said
maps would be available at Town Hall. FF/MK felt that notices should go to residents
within the standard 300 ft. Only those residents within 300 ft of new/re-routed paths will be
invited to help modify recommendations [blue dot on dotted green line] (CV).
Public Hearing(s) will be at the end of August/September (CV).
REPORTS FROM COMMITTEES AND COUNCILMEMBERS:
Master Pathway Map Ad-hoc Committee update: Carol G said that Dot was going through
the Record of Survey; noted that Karen Jost hand files easements and will give copies of
them to Dot. Dot and Carol are hand-checking the map and would appreciate help; NG
and GS may be able to help.
Planning Commission Meeting report: GS said that PAUSD has agreed to let Pinewood
School go ahead with a ‘License,’ therefore the path use becomes a non-issue; it should
be okay for about the next 10 years.
County S1 Trail update: DC has not yet contacted Breene Kerr.
NEW BUSINESS:
Recommendations on properties:
27230 Elena Road (Lands of Bradford, secondary unit addition): (done at 4/26/04)
26800 Fremont Road (Pinewood School, permit modification):
Review of Pathway recommendation:
26271 Moody Road (Lands Micheletti). (CV: Susan Micheletti would like to discuss the
PC’s recommendation for placing a path along their subdivision on Moody Road, and
possibly ask the Committee to modify its recommendation of 1/26/04.) The original
recommendation was for a native path along the creek, which was okay; the change to
requesting a IIB path along the same route, the owner(s) felt not realistic; they felt a IIB
path roadside was feasible. Consensus: will have 3 people walk the path with Micheletti
and come up with a recommendation. GS, MK and DC will represent the PC. They will
agree upon an evening and time and when all 4 can meet together. Motion: The three will
make up their minds, for the rest of us. Unanimous approval.
Horse use guidelines for the pathways. (DC) Several residents have voiced concerns
about horse use of the pathways, resulting in walkers walking in the street - manure year-
round, divots after wet weather. Discussion: need horse riders to change some of their
behavior(s). Carol has talked with a Barn connection. Suggestions: riders return to clean
up after their horses, especially on driveways, especially if there have been complaints;
possibly hiding shovels at appropriate spots; publishing a ‘Horse Etiquette” piece; a Town
Newsletter article asking horse and dog owners to clean up after their animals, and asking
riders to limit trail use/be more careful of path choices following heavy rains because of
resulting divots; sending the same newsletter to the Horsemen’s Assoc. in order to also
reach them; signage around Westwind Barn, Fremont Hills, Ramos Ranch and wherever
else there are problems. Decision: 1st a 6-month trial period: a letter requesting clean ups
and limited after-rain path riding (DC); wait for 2nd action: signage (words to be decided on
later, if needed).
UNFINISHED BUSINESS. Not done.
Impact fees. Not done.
Topics for discussion with Engineering staff. Not done
Capital Projects. Not done.
PATHWAY FINANCE REVIEW Not done.
COMMUNITY EVENT SUPPORT.
Town Picnic, June 6th 1-4 pm. FF, MK and CV will staff the booth. There will be an
11:00 am walk lasting 1.5 hr. FF will lead it. Carol and Les will help with the planning;
possibly an ad in Town Crier Calendar and a Hills2000 emailing; Carol will try to have
Duffy Price advertise it; will need ‘Release forms’.
MASTER PATHWAY PLAN (MPP) UPDATE. Off-road pathway recommendations.
Quadrant D3 (change)
Quadrant D4 (MK) (1st review)
Quadrant B3 (NG) (1st review)
Quadrant D3 (CV) (change)
D3.9-10 ‘sewer easement road’ and public access to it; the large property along and south
of 280 has come in for development. Carol G: there should be a path easement from the
Water District, but have not found papers for it yet. Agreement: want a path
along/paralleling 280, from El Monte through Eastbrook Ave. Proposal to finish the Mary
Stutz path, extending the top to a 280 path. The most desirable is along the creek, but that
is not where the Parcel split is. Proposal: use the existing easement between 11641/11635
Dawson Dr; hug property line in SE direction, then NE at the Parcel split. Les E: get Staff
to estimate bridge construction costs; possible funding sources: (1) fire district, 2)
developer, and 3) County VTA bike bridge only. MK: need a minimum of 8 ft path width, if
going through Bike Advisory. CV suggested sealing and resurfacing of the current path.
Motion: 1) patch and seal existing path; 2) get path easement over entire stretch to east; 3)
build bridge over Halle Creek. Unanimous approval. Motion: get easements at start of
driveway of Parcel B, then southeast direct to boundary between Parcels A and B, then
northeast to sealed path. Unanimous approval.
Quadrant D4 (MK) (1st review)
D4.1 green straight line: Jabil Ln through the NE boundary of 23923 Fernhill;
removing the green on the NW and SW boundaries of 23923 Fernhill
D4.2 green Fernhill/Magdalena connector
D4.3 green PUE (actually a road), paralleling Magdalena to the east
D4.4 green Toyonita Rd (walkable)
D4.5 green El Camita Rd (walkable)
Motion: to approve as noted. Unanimous approval.
Quadrant B3 (NG) (1st review)
B3.1 green Vista del Valle/Elena connection
B3.2 green paralleling 280
B3.3 green arrows from Packard Taaffe path, towards Altamont and Vinedo Lane
B3.4 blue move path and arrow from between 26910/26922 Dezahara
to down joint driveway of 26922, 26934, 26946 Dezahara,
then between 26922/26934; keeping arrow into 26580 Taaffe
B3.5 red Ridgewood Lane
B3.6 green marked scenic easement connecting Moody Rd with Altamont
B3.7
B3.8 yellow between 26041, 26043 Chaparral
REQUESTS TOPICS FOR NEXT MONTH’S MEETING
Presentations from the floor: 13331 Wildcrest Dr.
MEETING ADJOURNED at 9:10 pm