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HomeMy WebLinkAbout03/09/19774W PLANNINC OanYf'SSICN TOWN OF IDS ALTOS HILLS 26379 Fremont Road Los Altos Hills, California MINUTES OF A REGUfAR NEETINC Wednesday, March 9, 1977 Peel 56, Side I, Tr. 2, 001 to End; Reel 57, Side I, Tr. 1, 001 to 693. Chairman Hahn called the meetinq of the Planning Ccomi.ssion to order at 7:35 P.M. in the Council Chambers of Tuan Hall. %)LL CALL AND P= OF ALIEGIANCE: Present: Commissioners Carico, Perkins, Rydell, Stewart, noun, Schick and Hahn. Absent: None Also Present: City Manager Robert Crowe, Town Engineer Alexander Russell, Tom Planner/Engineer John Markl, Secretary Ethel Hopkins Camdssioner Hahn acknwiedgei receipt of a letter of resignation from Cemnissioner Rydell. The Chairman expressed regret at Mr. Rydell's leavinq the Commission, but he wished him well in his new position in another area of the country. ` Chairman Hahn acknowledged receipt of a March 9th memorandum from the City Manager, subject "Reports and Minutes Re Tentative Maps"; and of a request from ommcil- man Proft that the Planning Casmission discuss the six residential areas of the General Plan; and finally asked that under the item "New Business" on the agenda the Camussioners consider the question of a special meeting of the Commission in March. CONSENT CALENDAR: 'Rte following items were requested to be removed from the Consent Calendar: 1. The Minutes of the January 4 (Joint City Council -Planning Commission Pleetinq) and Minutes of February 23 2. Acceptance of Tentative Map Application, LANDS OF TRAFICNM-VOOR=-S, File #TM 2055-77, Voorhees Drive, Edwin H. Smith, Engineer 3. Acceptance of Tentative Map Application, LANDS OF LAND RESOURCES CORP., Arastradero Road, File #TM 2054-77, Paul E. Nowack, Engineer MOTION SEIXN= AND DNPNIMDUSLY CARRIED: It was moved b, Commissioner Stewart, seconded by C�ssioner Hahn and imanincusly passed that the remaining item on the Consent Calendar be approved, specifically: 1. Minutes of February 9, 1977. 4. Acceptance of Tentative Map Application, LANDS OF DIrKMSON, 25720 Altamont Road, Pile #TM 2056-77, John Riley, Engineer. Items removed from the Consent Calerxlar: L Commissioner Carico stated conoeming the January 4 Minutes of the Joint City Council - Planning Commission meeting, Item 2Wl. - that there was no definite determination made about the Planning Commissioners attending the Subdivision Camdttee meeting. MIN= CF THE PLANNING CM41SSICU - March 9, 1977 Page two CCNSXMT CAT12MAR: (continued) Discussion follaoed on whether a Commissioner was obliged to be present at Sub- division greetings, and if not, would the present schedule of assigning a Commissioner to attend these meetings for a month at a time hold? City Manager Crows concluded the discussion by saying that it was a Code requirement for a Commissioner to attend these meetings, but that it had been the consensus of opinion at the January 4th meeting that attendance at the Subdivision meeting depended on whether the individual Commissioner thought it was an important function of his office to do so. Commissioner Carico requested that possibly Item 20.3, of the January 4th Minutes be agendaed for discussion at some future date so that formal recommendations could be sent to the City Council. WTICN SEMMED AND CARRIED: It was moved by Commissioner Rahn and seconded by Commissioner Schick to approve the Minutes of the Joint Meetinq of January 4, 1977 except for Item 1 which is questionable as to whether it is mandatory or. not. The motion was approved by all Commissioners except Commissioner Rahn who abstained because he had been absent from the meeting. Cn the Minutes of February 23, Chairman Hahn requested the following corrections: Page 6 - 8th line from the bottom 'excessive' should replace the word "exclusive". Page GA - 5th line from the bottom "road would better" should be corrected to read 'mad would be better.' Page 7 - Chairman Hahn asked that the last paragraph on the page be checked for the accuracy of transcription of what what was actually stated. The sentence should read 'anything done to Three Forks Lane' rather than 'anything dam to Three Forks Lane". 'The improvements were being requested for the benefit of Three Forks Lane residents.' should also be inserted after the first sentence. SIM SEOMM AMID MMUM; It was moved by Commissioner Carico and seconded by Commissioner Hahn to approve the Minutes of February 23 as amended. The motion was approved by all Commissioners present with the exception of Commissioners Rydell and Perkins who abstained because they had been absent from the meeting. Commissioner Perkins wanted to know more precisely about where the Lands of Land I�sources Corporation on Arastradem Poad, File #TM 2054-77, was located and also if this map was in complete compliance with the subdivision ordinances. Mr. Maricl discussed his efforts at assuring that naps were in compliance and stated that it would not have been placed on the agenda for acceptance if it were not. MRICN SEMZED AND UNANLbL)USLY CARRIM: It was moved by Commissioner Hahn, seconded by Commissioner Schick and unanimously carried to adept the application for tentative MaPw LAND RESOURCES CURT-, Arastradem Road, File "M 2054-77. PIIDIJC HEARINGS: 1. CUUNIRY WAY SUM1WSICN (foamrl Lands of Bahl), File fqM 2041-76, Paqe Mill Road anF Lane, fweorge No to &Associates, Fngrneers, Request for Recammerr dation of Approval of Resukamitted Tentative Map for Subdivision (continuer) from �r the meeting of February 23) . Chairman Hahn began further discussion on the subject subdivision by reviewing the issues that heli to be decided by the oamdssiooem. Specifically, they were the MINUTES OF TAE PLANNING CC[4nSSION - March 9, 1977 Page three PUBLIC HEARINGS: I. COUNTTd WAY SUBDIVISION (formerly Lands of. Bahl), File 47712 0 4 1-7 6: (continued) the matter of the intersection of. Country Way and Page Mill Road, and the matter of paths and fire mad access. He noted that he had met with the City Fmxrineer and Mr. Farwell of the Fire Department to discuss these problems. He referred to sections in the General Plan that were genane to the area under discussion,the page 77 discussion of the Matadero Creek area, the pane 133(b) map shaving fire hazards and protection in the Matadem Hills, and the page 41 discussion on emergency roads. He noted also that Mr. Farwell proposed fightinq fires by caning in from the 'Three Forks area rather than going dam the east side of the property, and noted that Mr. Farwell proposed coning dam Country Way betz,+een Lots 7 and 8 and dam the southerly side of Lot 8 and along the Lands of Koo. Mr. Halm also noted the question of area for Lots 1, 2, and 16 of the subdivision and the kind of development these lots could sustain, as well as the need to pro- vide a path through the subdivision to the Koo property without traversing the steeply sloping hillside area. Thereafter, the hearing was opened to the public. Mrs. Fiksdal, Pathwa She 22tttee spoke for the pathway proposals presented in her memorandum oD noted that without the path as she proposed, there would be no direct path from the Koo Subdivision to the Bahl Subdivision without tres- passing on private land. She urged the subdivider and area residents to try to get together and work out a path without a lot of grading to the canyon area and 4W that would follow natural land contours in the area. In discussion that follared on the various alternatives to the problem of the steep Path through the canyon area, Commissioner Young cautioned against relinquishing a certain path no matter how bad it was, against a future path that might or might not become available if other property amers in the area decided to subdivide. Car missioner Perkins, referring to the General Plan, noted that it required that canyon and Swale areas be preserved for open space; he =eluted that a path acres, the Bahl canyon area would be a mistake, that it would open up problems of preservation of stream and wilderness area. Commissioner Schick noted that a five .foot path in an area with heavy poison oak growth world become an equestrian rather than a pedestrian trail. Wallace Stegner, South Fork Lane, spoke against the canyon area trail and for a paT-dam Country Way. He said it was possible to get a path along the Sterling land which would be a satisfactory way to get to the higher ground of Natuna. Public hearing was closed and discussion continued among Cammissioners. Cmmissioner Carieo again voiced a omplaint about the lack of proper maps. She noted also the need to be aware of the potential development of the Palo Alto School District property, and the need to have a connection from the Kco property to Via Ventana. MM(V SEOa= AND CARRIED: It was moved by C mnissioner Stewart, seconded by 03mussiamer Carico and unanimously passed that the ten foot (101) joint easement for a Type lA path shall be continued from the cul-de-sac on Country Way along the Private portion of Country Way to the intersection of Lots 7 and 8, then in a southerly direction with a ten foot easement in that area (five foot (5') from each lot) to the southerly boundary of Lots 7 and 8 and then continuing a ten foot (101) easement along the southerly boundary of Lot 8 to the easterly boundary to its terminus. ( MINUTES GF THE PLANNING CCRUSSIGN - March 9, 1977 Page four PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1. COUNTRY WAY SUBDIVISION (formerly (ands of Bahl), File #TM 2041-76: (continued) Discussionrsumed on the fire road access with Camdssicner rari.m asking that it be noted for the record that the Los Altos Country Fire Protection District repesentative Mr. Stu Farwell had said that the emergency fire road easement would be adequate, and that he had agreed to use the easement to get into the area. Mr. Russell, the Two Engineer, noted that the easamnt could be used by a piece of amrgencY vehicular equipment. To Cacmissioner Young's query on has a right- angle turn -around could be negotiated, Mr. Russell said that a radius curve would be put in on Lots 7 and 8. KVICN SEO(NDED AND CARRIED: It was [roved by Commissioner Hahn and secauded by Caumissiouer Schick that an emergency fire road easment shall be dedicated from the bulb of Country Way, down the private section of the Way to the intersection of Lots 7 and 8 and then southerly between Lots 7 and 8 to the Palo Alto School property, and then in an easterly direction along Iat 8 to the end of the property. The motion was approved by all the (kmnissioners except Commissioner Perkins who voted against it. William Cotton, Town Geoloqist discussed Lots 1, 2 and 16 and a hit of Lot 10 as re to a fault trace r=uxg through the area. He noted that a setback of 25, 50 or 100 feet fran the fault zone depended on how the Town felt about 40 the setback areas £ran such zones. He said the proposed plan and setback area frau the fault zone locked good and was a reasonable approach. Vfien Comissioner Schick asked whether Mr. Bahl was taking the maximum setback, Mr. Cotton agreed that he was. Mr. Russell again noted that there had been no Prnm ent in the area under discussion for a period of 7,500 years, and that trenches had been dug and the fault zone de- fined as located in the region of Lots 1, 2 and 16. He also said that the zone was defined and that the fifty foot setback did cmply with Town requirements. Don Bahl Subdivider, noted the F�duibit supplied was in eapliance with City Council xequests,an tat trenching was for the purpose of fitting houses appropriately onto these lots in question. MHTCN SECONDED AND UNANIMNSLY PASSED: It was !roved by Commissioner Hahn, seconded by Ca`missioner Schick, and unani musly passed, that attached to the Sub- division Tentative Diap shall be the drawing designated Exhibit A (to be affixed to and beccm a part of the approved Country Way Subdivision file) de ronstratmg that Lots 1, 2 and 16 can aeoamrodate at least a 3,200 square foot first floor hole, plus a pool, without requiring a variance. Mr. Russell confirmed that it will be noted on the final map that there has been a soils and geological report and the date of the report. Cmudssioner Young was concerned about emphasizing three lots without calling attention to other lots on which the fault trace runs. Lamdssioner Hahn noted, however, that these had been designated for special attention by Councilman McRey- nolds and therefore were being addressed by the Planning Camuission with special concern. Mr. Russell, hauever, suggested writing across the tentative map: "All lotsinwhich the fault trace appears in the original diagram are subject to the KWTFS OF 141E PLANNING aWaSSION - March 9, 1977 Page five PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1. CGUNTRY WAY SUBDIVISION (fornerly Lands of Bahl), File #TM 2041-76: (continued) same setbacks as imposed on a three 1 which is the twenty-five foot setback. Discussion began problem of thdiAtersection of Country Way and Page Mill Road. When City Manager Crone warned against trying to determine, before actual engineering Plans for the intersection are completed, the exact location of the mad, C=dssioner Schick stated she wanted it clearly stated in the record that the Planning Ctnmission did think about the intersectionsof the mads. Commmissioner Carico noted the need for Three Forks Lane residents to work with Mr. Bahl toward a solution to the problem of the hazards of the intersecting roads and noted that the proposed solution was the best one until Mr. Bahr agreed to cooperate on the matter. Mr. Russell agreed that the Three Forks Lane area is bad, and stated that it was to hff. Bahl's credit that be was willing to give an easement across his property at no expense to Mr. Bahr so that the connection to Country Way could be made. He also stated that the improvement plans would be brought to the Commission for review before they are presented to Council when Commissioner Perkins expressed concern over the adequacy of what had been proposed. MOTION SECONDED APED CARRIED: It was moved by Commissioner Hahn and seconded by L Cmmissicner Schick that the intersection of Country Way and Page Mill Nknad may �Y be moved in an easterly direction to obtain optimum line of sight. This inter- section shall be designed to the satisfaction of the Tam Engineer. All Ccvmnissim- ers voted for the motion except Commissioner Perkins who voted against it. MOTION SECONDED AND CARRIED: It was proved by Co missioner Hahn, seconded by C=dssioner Schick and unanimously approved that the remaining triangle bordered by Three Forks Lane, Page Mill Road and the forty foot (40') easement across Lot 15 shall be dedicated to the Town of Los Altos Bills th expedite possible future development of the adjacent Three Forks Lane property. MOTION SECONDED AND CARRIED: It was moved by Commissioner Carico and seconded by Commissioner Schick to recammend approval of Country Flay Subdivision, File #TM 2041-76, with conditions as mended by the Planning Commission. All 03�mmission - ers voted for the motion with the exception of Commissioner Perkins who voted against it. MOTION SECONDED ADD CARRTFD: It was moved by Commissioner Carico, seconded by Commissioner Schick and unanimously approved to file a negative declaration for the Country Way Subdivision, File irTM 2041-76. A recess was called by Chairman Hahn at 9:59 P.M., and the meeting was resumed at 10:12 P.M.. 2. LANDS OF SISSON File #TM 2051-76, West Fremont Road, Dexter Ahlgren, Engineer, 3lrO Request for h tion o Approval of Tentative Map. Town vher/rahgineer�h�a 1p led to attention tiof theafCawi,,iianerss to srts dated � re lane 9. 44, anw Kments to the proposed list of conditions for the subject property. Thereafter, discission began with Commissioner Schick asking about Condition 8 on page two of the list of conditions. She wanted to know if a request for variance would comply KMTCES OF TAE PLANNING CM41SSION - March 9, 1977 LPage six PUBLIC HEARINGS: 2. IRMS OF SISSON, File M 2051-76: (continued with the six criteria for a variance approval. There was a lot of discussion on whether the carport on Tat 3 should remain if it is not in compliance with set- back requirements. Ccmnissioner Stewart noted that the subject property and existing garage or carport abuts onto the property of Beth Am Synagogue. He was of the opinion that it is a noise barrier which screens out traffic and noise from the adjacent property. Rb a proposal that a garage could be constructed, in keep- ing with setback requirements, on another area of the lot, he noted that as it is the carport is hidden by the trees. I£ it were reconstructed in the meadow area, it would stand out and be an eyesore. Camiissioner Young pointed out also that the driveway would also have to be realigned if a garage were constructed else- where and possibly more trees would have to be removed. There was considerable discussion on the request for an easement by the Santa Clara County water District for the purposes of flood control maintenance. Owmissioner Stewart objected to the requirement of forty feet, noting that if flooding in the area did occur, property owners would surely let the District in to work on the Chairman Hahn opened the hearing to the public. L LYxtEr Ahlgren, Engineer for the Applicant, said that while he did not object to �/ the forty foot eseament �i -Flood Control District, he would like to see it made as small as possible. In discussing the easement requested by the Flood Control District, Mr. Russell said that he went along with the philosophy of obtaining easements, but he could not go along with taking easements along one piece of property when there are none on either side. He noted that there was access for the District from the private road if it were needed. Discussion was concluded, the public hearing closed, and measures proposed on the property as follows: M71T(N SECONDED AND CAIU=: It was moved by Camky§sioner Perkins and seconded by Commissioner Young, that concerning Condition 8``,°3if granted a conditional exception, the structure shall not be structurally altered, enlarged or modified. AYES: Commissioners Perkins, Rydell, Stewart, Yong. NOES: Commissioners Carico, Schick and Hahn. ABS97JN: None M=ON SECMM AND MWINX)SLY APPRWED: It was moved by Con ssicner Perkins, seconded by Commissioner Carico, and unanimously approved to recommend approval of the Lands of Sisson, File #TM 2051-76, with conditions one through thirteen as modified by the Planning Commission. MMON SECONDED AND UNANIMWSLY APPROVED: It was moved by Oommissioner Schick, seconded by Commissioner Hahn and knaavrously approved to file a negative declaration 4W for the Lands of Sisson, File #Ton 2051-76. (� PIIN[TM OF THE PINOUNG COFf4SSICK - March 9, 1977 Page seven Iuiwftey- 3. IRM OF DUVAL File #TM2049-76, Robleda s Duval, Paul Nowack, F]nginser, Paquest or Rea>nmen tion 07 Approval of Tentative Map. Information on the subject property was contained in the staff report of March 2. Mr. Markl noted that the Commissioners had received several corrections for their infoamtion on Lands of Duval, a letter fron neighbors citing their feeling on the status of the road, and a melmoranhan dated March 6 from Mrs, Fiksdal, Pathway Committee. Discussion began on the property with Mr. Russell giving a brief history on the status of Duval Way and haw the present dilermo on the road had case about. He noted that the property had started out with Vince Kennedy in the 1960's. He had bought the property frau Mrs. Duval, and that no roads had been „sired to serve these lots. The five lots in questions all have easerants frau Mrs. Duval in order to have access. He had no knowledge of a maintenance agreermt, and noted when fully developed, the road (Duval Way- now a private road) will have more than five homes on it. Ounnssioner Schick asked who awned the road, and Mr. Russell said it belonged to Mrs. Duval and the present subdivider. Later in the discussion, however, Maryann Malcolm, one of the licants, stated that the present subdividers awned aI� prxperty, in the road area under discussion, having hought it from Mrs. Duval by paying cash for the property. Connissianer Perkins raised the issue of the gross acreage on the property, and stated he had difficulty seeing if the slope density calculations were insistent. 'hereafter, Chairman Hahn opened the hearing to the public. Paul Nowack, �ineer for the Applicant, stated he objected to two of the conditions: Conkrtron Sa notug' ii t�Tiys�Wou d, require double fencing for the corral; and Ognlition 7, noting that the Town had picked up an $1100 cash bond for roadside inprovements and certain ditches. He stated it was unfair to ask the present owners of the Lands of Duval to bring the roadupto Town standards or to fix the road all by themselves. He noted that the owners still wanted to keep the private road, and that those traversing the Lands of Duval were being asked to contribute to the repair of the road, Mr. Russell noted, however, that the Tuan has a perfect aright to require that the road be brought up to Town standards, and noted that the drainage money was fueled in 1975. Discussion on whether the road should be private or public continued with camnents frac surrounding property owners. Mr. Arthur Sobel, 26066 Duval Way noted that it made no sense that he should have to contributeute to ringing road uP to Down standards, and that he paid taxes for this to the Town, that he should not have tD maintain a road because he received a fee sinple right of ingress when he purchased his property. Albert Jackson, 26088 Duval Wa stated that five lots exist on Duval Way and that more on n gnrnproved road would make it iupassahle. He stated that there was no reason that he should pay to inprove Duval pray when it is at present serviceable tothe hates on the road now. tOTICK SE03NDM AND FAILFD: The hour becaning late, it was moved by Commissioner Hahn and seconded by Commissioner Schick to continue the matters on the agenda KM)TES OF THE PLANNING MmU9SICN - March 9, 1977 Page eight PUBLIC HEARINGS: 3. LANDS OF DUVAL, File $TM 2049-76: (continued) to Wild Barley Hills. Commissioners voting for the motion were Commissioners Schick and Hahn; against, Caanissimers Carieo, Perkins, Rydell, Stewart and Young. Alan Lanbert, 141 First Street Los Altos promised that Wild Barley Hill subdivision was essentially the same, that Mr. Cotton's report could not be long, and that he had care ham from Paris to the subdivision hearing. lie requested that the Cammission continue. It was mover] by Cmmissianer Perkins and seconded by Camdssioner Carim to adjourn at 12:30 A.M.. Voting for the motion were Commissiaiers Carim, Perkins, Rydell, Stewart and Schick; against were Ca!missiaters Young and Hahn. Mr. William Hauswald, 26100 Duval Way felt cost of improving Duval Way should be p551 tneTann, and t the residents should not have to pay for irproving the road. He noted, in response to Commissioner Carim's query on a maintenance agreement, that the road to where he lives is maintained. He noted, in light of the poor way that the road has came about that this is the last time to straighten it out. Mrs. Fiksdal, Pathw Cmnittee Chairwarnan objected to a different path reeomendation `. on -par-E-37 S ran the one a reamnended. Mr. Markl noted that at the time of the Subdivision meeting it had been noted that there was a definite need for paths through the areas to Foothill College, and that the path recamc+ndation was a corpranise reoamendatim. Mr. Russell stated that conditions were suggestions only and could be changed by the Planning Cmmission. Don Campbell, 12870 Rcbleda spoke for the Pathway Cmmittee's rs a dations on Pa Thereafter, the public hearing was closed. Various ways of alleviating the cost of improving the mad to public standards were discussed, such as having a public road to the Smith property and a private mad £ran there. MITICN SECONDED AND LUANIM MY CAFd=: It was moved by Cmtnissioner Perkins, seconded by Cmmissioner Young and unanimously carried to delete condition 5A and replace it with a ten foot pedestrian and equestrian easement along the westerly boundary of Lot 3 fen Duval Way to Josefa Lane. MIfION SES AND iNPINIMXSLY CARRIED: It was moved by Cmrdssicner Carie, seconded by Commissioner Stewart, and unanimously approved that as a condition the applicant shall construct a five foot (5') pathway, Type 1A within Duval Way from Pobleda Road to the cul-de-sac and within the easement as set forth above in Condition 5a. { M7rICN SEOamm AND CAM=- It was mroved by Cmmissicner Young and seconded �r by Coamissicner Rydell to recmmend approval of the Lands of Duval, File fllQ049-76, with conditions as amended by the Planning Condssion. AYES: Cffi[missioners Carie, Rydell, Stewart., Young, Schick, Hahn. NCES: Cmmissioner Perkins ABSTAIN: None MJNUPFS OF THE PL MM, OU44ISSICN - March 9, 1977 Page nine PUBLIC HEARINGS: 3. IRMS OF DUVAL, #TM 2049-76: (continued) M TICK SEOCNDID AND UNANIM7JSLY ("AM=: It was moved by Commissioner Schick, seconded by Commissioner Young and unanimously passed to file a negative declaration for the Lands of Duval, File #TM 2049-76. 4. LANDS CP WILD WCEY HILI. File #TM 2046-76, Hilltop Drive, Sandie & Associates, N gineers, Request tur Reommendatdon at Approval of Resubmitted Tentative Map. Mr. Markl called attention to his March 9th memo with the added condition 2-a concerning required fire hydrants to be added to the subdivision, arri thereafter reviewed events as they related to the subdivision. He noted that the re-routing of the road on this subdivision was in conformance with the Seismic Safety element of the General Plan. Thereafter, Chai man Hahn opened the hearing to the public. William Cotton, Tom Geologist reviewed his experience With the Wild Barley Eirii n�ii drvrsron. He noted that at the time of the original review of the property that he thought the property had significant geological problems, and noted that the geological investigation didn't find the fault where he thought it was, and noted that the fault was found to be a one hundred foot wide zone. He noted that the zone on the Wild Bazley Hill Subdivision was not a single line as on the Bahl property. He noted that in the cage of Wild Barley Hill, a wide zone is taken as the fault line on the property and that a twenty-five foot setback is allowed from that. The fact that all houses will be outside this zone does not eliminate the chance of ground rupture interfering with foundations, but it significantly reduces the chances to levels of acceptable risk. - Mr. Cotton said he could live with what had been proposed and to recommend the subdivision. Mr. Cotton noted further that since then the City Council has requested a fifty foot setback, but that this requirement would not reduce risks anymore than the twenty-five foot setback world. He reiterated that a twenty-five foot setback is a reasonable approach for a setback from a fault zone, and most of his colleagues would agree with hin. Mr. Cotton ountinusi by stating that the re -alignment of Wild Barley Hill Pbad is better because it minimizes the partial destruction of roadway. He added that fault zones were good locations for roadway since this minimized the danger to people, and that people should remain in houses rather than on roads. Commissioner Schick noted for the record that two reasons for which the subdivision had been denied had been taken care of by Mr. Cotton's discussion. Mr. Perkins asked if the problem of the fifty foot right of way for the roadway had been taken care of in relation to the Yeager property by the path easement. Mr. Russell said that it had. Mr. Russell noted that another issue raised was the downstream drainage from the Wild Barley Hill Subdivision. He traced the route of water run-off and stated ` that it was not the responsibility of this subdivider to correct all those structures that cavy drainage downstream from the subdivision that are under- sized. Water runoff from the property has the right to follow the natural drainage path. 'Thereafter, Mr. Hahn opened the hearing to the public. MINUTES OF THE PIMUNG OWUSSICN - March 9, 1977 Page ten 4W PUBLIC HEARINGS: 4. IANDS OF WILD BARLEY HITS, File #TM 2046-76: (continued) Alan Lambert Subdivider, said that Wild Barley Hill is a better su)divisim by happenstance. He sp ce for approval. Mrs. Gottlieb Uj�Pathw Camnittee, discussed pathway requests. She stated that J rung Wild Barley Hill) were not antagonistic to the path but at this time they would not grant a path across their property. She noted the needtokeep children off E1 Monte Avenue. Mr. Hahn stated that the Camdssioners had previously been told that the Town had no easement beyond the Lands of Wild Barley Hill. He questioned if a path should be required along Lot 14 as a conditional path foramen Wild Barley Hill Road goes all the way dam to Claussens. Mrs. Gottlieb said that when Mr. Stewart built a seared house, he filled in Part o t n� c% This could beosne a white torrent, and she expressed concern abort the creek area there. Thereafter, Mr. Hahn closed the public hearing. DMION SECO= PND IRIX IM USLY CARRIED: It was moved by Commissioner Schick, seconded by Commissioner Rydell and unanimously carried to recomend approval of Tentative Map for Lands of Wild Barley Hill, File #TM 2046-76, with conditions as previously amended and recamended by the Staff. MYTION SECONDED AND UMMUUSLY APPI4x7ID: It was moved by Commissioner Schick and seconded by Canmissioner Hahn that a negative declaration be filed for the Lands of Wild Barley Hill, File #TM 2046-76. CID BUSINESS: In discussion of items of business on zoning that were before the Commission, the matter of a special meeting was discussed in order to have time to deal with them. It was moved by Cc ssiaier Perkins and seconded by Ccardssicner Rydell that a special meeting of the Planning Caemissicn take place on the fifth Wednesday of March. All Crnmissimers voted for the motion except Camdssicner Carico. Crnmissianer Perkins asked Mr. Markl for a re -calculation for lot oampliance with slope density requirements for the Lands of Duval. NEW BUSINESS: Mr. Russell called attention to the March 9th letter fran the City Manager regarding the transmission of the Minutes of the Planning Crnmi.ssion to the City Council in connection with Tentative Map Recamiendations. In a short discussion of the memo, Caani.ssioner Rydell stated this was -not qui at he had in mind. Fid said r staff sho be ra �to Tthre non the Council f {fir th ��- dt.C�ed...��` t _DJOU O It was moved by Commissioner Perkins, seconded by Commissioner Rydell, and unanimously approved to adjourn the meeting at 1:00 A.M., March 10th. Respectfully submitted, Ethel Hopkins Secretary