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PLANNINC (T"IISSION
Town of Los Altos Hills
26379 Fmve nt Road
Los Altos Hills, California
MINUTES OF A REGULAR M=INC
Wednesday, April 27, 1977
Reel 58, Side I, TY. 1, 271 to Ehd;Side II, Tr. 1, Onl to 676.
Chaim Hahn called the meeting of the Planning Candssion to order at 7:50 P.M.
in the Council Chm ld rs of Town Hall.
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Present: Crnmissicnem Perkins, Stewart, Young, Schick, and Hahn.
Absent: Cc missicner Carim
Also Present: Town Engineer Alo,wn.lPr Russell, Town Planner/Fhgineer John Markl,
Secretary Ethel Hopkins
0C NSEN f CALENDAR:
1. Minutes of April 13, 1977: This item on the consent calendar was rercved
and requested to be continued to the meeting of May 11 for the reason that the
secretary had not had enough tirue to transcribe them.
MMICN SECONDED AND CARRIED: It was moved by Cormi.ssioner Schick and seconded by
Commissioner Perkins to approve the mmainina item on the consent calendar,
namely, acceptance for filing of tentative map application, Lands of Saddle
Mountain Estates, File KM 2060-77, Arastradem road, J. Clegg, Engineer.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. LANDS OF RICH, File #14 2048-76, Stanbrook Drive, North Cal Staking Services,
Inc., Engineers, Request for Recomendation of Approval on Tentative Map.
Mr. Markl referred the Commissioners to his revised staff report of April 22 and
drew particular attention to Appendix 13, the "Geologic and Seismic Hazards
Investigation for Lands of Ries.”
Considerable discussion occurred amnq Commissioners on the recd rendation of a
ten foot setback fran the fault trace m Lands of Rich with Cammissicner Perkins
asking about the adequacy of this recomendation and whether this was not the
same fault trace that ran across the Wild Barley Hill Subdivision. Mr. Markl,
however, cautioned against drawing the same kind of conclusions on Lands of Rich
as an the Wild Barley Hill Subdivision since the latter subdivision was sore
distance away and across the freeway fran the Lands of Rich. Mr. Russell added
that a twenty-five foot setback fan a fault trace was Probably reasonable, and
discussion on this matter was suamed up with Commiissioner Stewart moomendina
that the applicant revise his map to show hw+ a hone could be constructed with
an allowance for a twenty-five foot setback from the fault trace rmmnina across
1 the property
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Omrdssimer Perkins stated that before the Commissioners could approve the tentative
amp, the serious problem of access on Stonebrodk Drive should be solved. Thereafter,
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PUUZC HEARINGS: (continued)
1. LANDS OF RICA, File 0IT1 2048-76: (continued)
the hearing was opened to the public.
David Rich, 12400 Stonebroek Drive said he was "crushed" by the further delay on
s subdivision request, iiZ=thee difficulties he has had getting in touch with
neighboring property owners, and noted that the qeoloqists have proposed more than
one alternative to dealing effectively with the fault trace on his property.
Mr. Rich stated his opposition to the pathway request, saying that he would be
required to give up a quarter of an acre of land to acammodate the request, that
his property would be encircled on three sides with a path, and calling into
question the safety of children on Stcnebrock Drive, and that the pathway rea est
would necessitate the removal of sizeable trees in the area. He suggested that
the pathway on Stauebrook should instead he located on the other side of Stonebmok
Drive.
Walter Strate, North Cal Stakin Services, 775 Iola Lara Mountain View discussed
e soilangeological investigations at e p ace on the property.
Betsy Fiksdal, Pathway Comnittee Chaircm-n spoke for the pathway request. She
state�itt a Rech property was the key to a pathway that would go along the
Highway 260 fence, along the Dawson property and down to ttagda7ena.
40 Chairman Hahn noted that the pathway request along Stcnehrook would necessitate
accampdating a grade, renuval of trees and telephone poles, and expressed doubt
that a goal path could be obtained. Air. Markl also noted that staff was opposed
to the pathway request along Stonebreok because it would be dangerous. He too
said that the path would be better on the other side of. Stonebrook Drive.
Mrs. Fiksdal conceded that it was not a crucial matter on which side of the mad
UE pa .fi was on, but that she was particularly concerned about the path along
the freeway fence.
Mr. Rich, applicant, noted that the panhandle area on his lot was a good place for
a swvmung pool or tennis court, but the proposed equestrian pathway request would
necessitate building a high fence that would interfere with the view. He objected
again to the pathway request. Thereafter, the public hearing was closed.
Discussion was concluded, and both the applicant Mr. Rich and Mr. Strate, his
engineer, agreed to an extension of the fifty day time period for tentative maps
so that unresolved problems on the application could be resolved.
?VTICN SEMOED AND CARRIED: It was moved by O mnissioner Stewart and seconded
by Commissioner Schick that the lands of Rich, File (FTM 2048-76 be continued so
that Mr. Rich can bring his plan back to the Camnission with the following items
resolved: 1) The width of the fault along with a provision for a bcenty-five foot
setback on each side of the fault, and a building envelope that will conform to
this setback. ('The building envelope is to include any future pool, tennis court,
v or other amenity to preclude future requests for variances.) 2) A proposed plan
for improving the sight distance on the entry way; and 3) The resolution of the
path issue.
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PUBLIC BEARINGS: (continued)
1. LANUB OF RICH, File #TM 2048-76: (continued)
All CmucLssioners voted for the approval of the motion on Lands of Rich.
At 9:10 a recess was called. The meeting resumed at 9:21.
2. LANDS OF SUIDZINSKI, File #CU 8013-76, 27150 Moody Court, Paul F. Nowack &
Associates, Engineers, Request for Reccmendation of Approval on Conditional
Use Permit Penewal Review. (Continued from April 13.)
Mr. Markl referred to his April 6 and April 18 staff reports to the Commission,
and stated that he had no further comments to add on the use permit renewal.
Discussion among Commissioners centered on the issues of whether or not the present
conditional use permit was being complied with and whether the plmmbinq facilities
in the larger of the two existing facilities would have to be removed. Mr. Markl
answered the question on the removal of the kitchen facilities by statina that
these facilities would have to he removed because Mr. Suidzinski's lot is not
further subdividable,and under the code could have one primary dwelling and a
quest house without kitchen facilities.
Mr. Markl stated further that at the tire of the original discussion on the use
0*0 permit, the matter of evicting an elderly couple livinq in the smaller of the two
existing dwellings was discussed. He suggested adding a condition to the use
permit that would require kitchen facilities in that dwellina to be removed when
the new residence is completed or when the elderly couple finds a new home as one
way to handle the problem.
Ccumissioer Young pointed out that the second, smaller dwelling on the property
is not in cmpliance with the use peumit conditions and referred to the Planning
Commission letter of. April 29, 1976 wherein the issue of a use permit for the
lands of Suidzinski was discussed. This letter stated that two rental residences
on a property would be a breach of Town ordinances and should not be allowed. The
letter stated that the Crnmission's recd n ndation at that time was for a use
permit for a single secondary dwelling without kitchen facilities. Commissioner
Schick added to the discussion that the twenty-year limit on non -conforming
structures had expired, and that the Town ordinances allowing a single residence
on non-subdividable land should be upheld.
Commissioner Perkins stated that the matter of the elderly couple living in the
smaller of the two dwellings was outside the issue of whether the conditions of
the use permit were being caoplied with. Mr. Suidzinski's request for an exception
to the rules should instead be taken before the City Council.
Various solutions on bringing about compliance on Town ordinances were proposed
by Conmissioers Young and Schick, and thereafter the hearing was opened to the public.
Joe Suidzinski, applicant, addressed the Cormissioners and stated that he will
na�roiem cc p-Lyyunq with Condition 9 on his original BSA request and the
conditions of the use permit as soon as his new dwelling is completed. He said
he had already given notice to the people living in the lancer of the two dwellings.
He requested that Planning Commission recommend to Council that the removal of
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` PUBLIC BF=GS: (continued)
2. LANDS OF SUININMU, File $CU 8013-76: (continued)
of kitchen facilities in both dwellings be delayed until his new residence is
ccrpleted and final inspection is made estimating the time to be by July 1977
and adding that August 15 would be the "drop dead date."
After Mr. Suidzinski's remarks the public hearing was closed. When motions were
made to the effect that all conditions on the use permit would have to be complied
with by August 15, Ccrmissimer Schick stated that she was opposed to "allowing
two rentals on me property to go on one day longer."
Conmissimer Stewart, however, asked that the Commissioners take a more compassionate
view toward the applicant's request. fie spoke for allowing the elderly cmmle to
remain as long as they wished since they had already lived in the dwelling for
seventeen years. fie said that the smaller of the two dwellings could be brought
into compliance at the time that the couple moved out of it or found another resi-
dence. 'Thereafter, the following motions were passed:
MMON SECCNrM AND UNANT6DUSLY CN=-. It was moved by Commissioner Perkins
and seconded by Crnmissioner Schick to add as Condition 4 to the List of Conditions
on the Conditional Use Permit the following: The larger of the two existing older
units shall be converted to a guest house in compliance with Town ordinances,
Section 9-5.214 at the time of final inspection, but not later than August 15, 1977.
wriCN SEca= AND CARRIED: It was moved by Cammissioner Hahn and seconded by
Cmmissioner Perkins to add the following condition to the Use Permit: All plumbing
and plumbing fixtures, with the exception of a utility sink, a gas line for a kiln,
and a hot water heater, shall be removed from the smaller wooden house prior to
the final inspection of the new primary dwelling, but not later than August 15, 1977.
Voting for the motion were Commissioners Perkins, voma and Hahn. Cctmissioners
Stewart and Schick voted against it. After it was determined that the motion had
passed, (omnissioner Schick said that she wanted to cp on record to say that the
Omnissicners had voted for a sanctioning of the violation of the Town's zoning
ordinances.
MM7ICN SECO= AND UNANIMUSLY CAM=: It was moved by Ccmmissicner Schick
and seconded by Chairman Hahn that Condition 2 be removed from the Use Permit
because it was null and void.
MYrIIN SEOCNDED AND CARRIFD: It was moved hyv Co Tnissioner Perkins and seeohaed
by Chairman Hahn to recce end approval of the renewal of Lands of Suidzinski
Conditional Use Permit with conditions as amended by the Planning Commission.
Voting for the motion were Commissioners Perkins, Young and Hahn; against it were
Commissioners Stewart and Schick.
Commissioner Stewart noted that when he addressed the applicant's request, he had
meant the applicant's letter dated April 18, 1977 requesti_na an exception to Town
ordinances. Chairman Hahn ruled that this letter could be discussed under
New Business.
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PUBLIc HEARINGS: (continued)
3. APRICOT TRIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT File OCU 8021-77, Fremont and Arastradero
lbads, R. Murray,TaU tett, Request for Recamrtendation of Approval of Conditional
Use Permit.
Mr. Markl referred the Commissioners to his staff report dated April 25, and then
demonstrated by means of a map transparency the applicant's plans to convert the
residences to school uses.
The Caonissionere discussed the use permit application: Commissioner Schick pointed
out that with the school hours extending to 6:00 P.M., the school would be like a
day care center. CamiLssioner Perkins inquired about adequate parking and traffic
flaw provisions. Nr. Markl responded to cau is by noting that the proposed school
is one of gradual development from the present kindemarten and first grade classes
with later expansion planned up to the sixth grade, but that as the school expanded
its grads the Planning Commission would have the opportunity to review the use
permit and make appropriate reo=mendatio s. Thereafter, the hearing was opened
to the public.
and administrator of the
school activities and atmosphere that Apricot Tree School would foster, the proposed
development of the school through the sixth grade, parking and custodial provisions,
40 and emphasized that Apricot Tree School would not be a day care center. It would
be a private school.
Bary Willis, 26970 Arastxadro Road,a new resident of the Town, spoke against
$s granting o r� ause pPsmit. He said that Los Altos Hills was an island of
tranquility in what is and what will be a significant urban area.
Joe Seiger, owner and tenant in carman with Dr. Simon of property at 27050 Old Trac
Road, called attention to two issues to be clarified. They were: 1) the need for
$i. school, and 2) was the property suitable for the use proposed. After reviewing
facts he had gathered on the issues, he regtested that the Commissioners deny the
request.
VincentLiu, 275 Rodri Avenue, Mil utas, owner -to -be of property at 27241 West
FreRMt Roa , reques t a letter read to the Cm ssioners stating his
opposition to the granting of the use permit be made a part of the file record.
9 Laub, Arastradero and Fre=t Roads, noted that her husband had signed the
pet tion = savor oft� t, ut that she was speaking against the use
permit because it would be an invasion of her property.
Mrs. Agnes Helc�esson, 26925 St. Francis Drive, stated her objection to the noise
the moos s� a generate aneasKea that the Cammi.ssim deny the use permit.
Mr. Joe Sisson, caner of Lands of Sisson on West Fremont ?mad, spoke against the
granting of the use permit.
Jack Simon, 27075 old Trace Lane, stated his strong opposition to the granting
oTTKTuse permit, noting tnat it would be an invasion of privacy and would spoil
the beauty of the hills, and that it was not needed.
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40 PUBLIC HEAIa7GS: (continued)
3. APRTCI7T TREE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, File #CU 8021-77: (continued)
Leslie Bel esson, 26925 Saint Francis Drive, noted that the area under discussion
was to a rest tra area accoraing to the General Plan. He stated he was
against the granting of the use permit, and stated that no environmental
impact report had been made.
Marilyn1� , LiddicoatCrcle, spoke for the approval of the use permit. She
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mcamndea that the school ne seen before a judgement was made against it.
Don Lang, Liddicoat Circle, spoke for the approval of the use permit.
Cheryl Crisler, 27161 Fremont Iniad, spoke against the approval of the use permit.
Ray Johnson, 11564 Arroyo Oaks, spoke for the approval of the use permit, noting
that son was a student them for the past three years and that she had never
experienced traffic problems with dropping off or picking up students.
The public hearing was closed and the Camiissionem voiced the folluAnq concerns
on the use permit request:
Chairman Hahn said that this was not a good location for the school, and that no
environmental impact study had been made.
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Omnissioner Schick said that them were not enaxah children to keep Fremont School
open, that Purissima School had been closed, and that there was no need for the
school. She com ended the quality of the school, but she was still opposed to
the granting of the use permit.
Camnissicmr Perkins said he was sympathetic to the school's aims, but voiced
concern with lack of conformance with the General Plan, the nu&er of other public
facilities in the same general area, and the concerns expressed by neiqhborinq
property owners.
Canmissioner Young noted the quality of Apricot Tree School but mow ended the
applicant seek an area with less congestion and less drastic impact on neighbors.
OmT ssioner Stewart noted that after visitinq the school, he found noise a signifi-
cant factor. He recd mended the applicant seek another location that would not
interfere with the privacy of a rural envirornmnt.
myriCN S]XSw= AND LNANI mmy PA45ID: It was moved by Omr ssioner Perkins and
seconded by Comnissiorner Young that it be recomended that the Apricot Tree
Conditional Use Permit, File fMB021-77, be denied for reasons related to traffic,
noise, and invasion of privacy.
NEW BUSIDIESS:
Camdssianer Penicins raised the issue of W. Suidzinski's April 18 letter requesting
relief fran Condition 9 on his BSA request to the effect that the Town would qrant
permission to an elderly couple to continue living on his property. Mr. Russell
suggested that possibly a conditional exception could be granted, but that it would
have to be at a duly noticed public hearing. It was the concensus of opinion, however,
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4 NEW BUSINESS:
that the City Council should review Mr. Sui.dzinski'a request.
Commissioner Schick again stated that she was against any changes in the Town's
zoning ordinances. Commissioner Young expressed the opinion that Mr. rUllio
should be asked for his opinion on the granting of relief from Municipal Code
requirements. In any case, the Planning Commission would await direction from
the City Cotmcil.
CIU BUSINESS:
Commissioner Schick asked about the City Council's request that the Ccsmission
make recommendations on zoning for the buildings on the Town Property at
26379 Fremont Fuad and also on the six residential areas of the General Plan.
It was concluded, however, that special time wculd have to be set aside to discuss
these issues.
HrICN SDCSNDM AND Ui7iNDIDUSLY APPTVVFa: It was mored by Commissioner Schick and
seconded by Cmudssicner Stewart that on I'bnday, May 2, the Planning Commission
would meet at 7:00 P.M. to discuss "Zoning for Ton Hall".
AnJOU1SII=-
The hour being late, Chairman Hahn adjourned the April 27 meeting of the Planning
Commission to Monday, May 2. Adjournment occurred at 12:17 P.M..
Respectfully submitted,
Ethel Hopkins
Secretary
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