HomeMy WebLinkAbout10/25/1978 (2)PLANNING COMMISSION
`r Town of Los Altos Hills
26379 Fremont Road
Los Altos Hills, California
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
Wednesday, October 25, 1978
Reel 73, Side I, Tr. 2, 001 to 1161
Chairman Stewart called the meeting of the Planning Commission to order at
8:45 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the Town Hall.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Commissioners Lachenbruch, vanTamelen, Dochnahl, Kuranoff, Chairman
Stewart. Commissioner Reeves arrived at 10:10 p.m.
Absent: Commissioner Carico
Also Present: Consulting Engineer/Planner John Markl, City Engineer John Carlson,
Secretary Ethel Hopkins
CONSENT CALENDAR:
After several typographical errors were called to the secretary's attention,
the Minutes of October 11 were approved on the motion of Chairman Stewart, seconded
`, by Commissioner Dochnahl. Voting for the motion of approval were Commissioners
Kuranoff, Dochnahl, VanTamelen and Stewart. Commissioner Lachenbruch abstained
from voting, and Commissioner Reeves had not yet arrived at the meeting.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. LANDS OF LEN N, File #TM 2092-78, Campo Vista Lane, Paul Nowack and Associates,
Engineer, Request for Recommendation of Approval of Negative Declaration and
Tentative Map - Continued to the meeting of November 20 at the request of the
Developer.
2. LANDS OF BAHR, File #TM 2079-78, South Fork Lane, Paul Nowack and Associates,
Engineer, Request for Recommendation of Approval of Negative Declaration and
Tentative Map, 2 Lots
Mr. Markl explained the difficulties he had had in getting the staff report and
conditions to the Commissioners on time and then went on to discuss the staff
report of October 20. He drew particular attention to the problems attendant to
development in this area, chiefly those of access from Three Forks Lane for the
Lands of Bahl subdivision and surrounding areas that could be subdivided in the
future.
Commissioners discussion began with questions being asked on the undergrounding
of utility poles along the Lands of Royden, easements on South Fork Lane, Mr. Bahr's
ownership of South Fork Lane as a separate piece of property, present and future
development of Lot 1, and further subdivision and grading in the event that Lot 1
is subdivided in the future. Also discussed was the expense to the applicant of a
connection to Country Way at this time and the re -alignment of Page Mill Road which
in turn would change the intersection of Three Forks and Page Mill Road. Thereafter,
the hearing was opened to the public discussion.
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�r PUBLIC HEARINGS: (continued)
2. LANDS OF BAHR, File NTM 2079-78: (continued)
Bob Nae ele, Paul Nowack and Associates 220 State Street Los Altos, En ineer,
iscusse items este un er entative ap an ope enssty omp lance on
pages three and four of the staff report. He promised a corrected map would be
available for the next meeting of the Commission.
Commissioner Lachenbruch discussed the need for a forty foot right-of-way for
Three Forks Lane.
Bob Bahr, 13464 Three Forks Lane, Applicant, questioned the necessity of a forty
foot right-of-way for Three Forks Lane.
Chairman Stewart proposed that any house on Lot 1 be at least fifty feet from the
Three Forks right-of-way, however, it was noted by Mr. Markt that development of
Lot 1 was a complicated issue. No action was taken on this matter.
MOTION SECONDED AND CARRIED: It was moved by Commissioner vanTamelen, seconded
by Commissioner Lachenbruch and carried that the Commissioners postpone going
through the conditions for the reason that the Planning Commission had just received
them and had not had time to consider them adequately.
AYES: Commissioners Stewart, vanTamelen, Dochnahl, Lachenbruch
L` NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Commissioner Kuranoff
Commissioner Lachenbruch commented on the quality of Mr. Markl's staff report,
and noted that he had demonstrated that viable solutions could be found for develop-
ment of the the subdivision. He noted that action on the map should be rather a
straight -forward matter after receipt of a corrected map and examination of the
site at a field trip proposed by Mr. Markl.
It was agreed that Planning Commission would meet on Sunday, October 29, at
9:15 a.m., and would park at Commissioner Kuranoff's property; they would walk
the Bahr property from there.
Commissioner Lachenbruch referred to page fourteen of the Lands Use Element of
the General Plan as appropriate guidance for development of areas such as Lands of
Bahr with slope areas in excess of 30%.
OLD BUSINESS:
1. Improvement Plans for LANDS OF ASTRA ESTATES, File !Fl 3065-78, LaPaloma Road,
Siegfried Pfendt, Engineer, Planning Commission Review:
Sir fried Pfendt, Develo er, discussed for the Commission the improvement plans
for Lan s of Astra Estates and requested permission to cut down an additional tree
on the property at the time that he complied with item 14 on the approved checklist.
The Planning Commission recommended that Mr. Pfendt make his tree removal request
to the City Council. Chairman Stewart, however, request that the Minutes reflect
that the Planning Commission had no objection to the removal of trees mentioned
in Condition 14 of the Approved Checklist for the Lands of Astra Estates. It was
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OLD BUSINESS: (continued)
1. Improvement Plans for LANDS OF ASTRA ESTATES, File NFM 3065-78: (continued)
also recommended that staff and Mr. Pfendt go out and look at the trees discussed
before the Final Map and Improvement Plans are presented to the City Council. The
field inspection was to determine where the trees were located with respect to
the centerline of the proposed road.
Further discussion followed on the location of the tangential stages for Golden
Hills Court and on landscaping planned for the road. area.
Artemas Ginzton, Environmental Desi n Committee, offered the Committee's help
on the kinds o trees to e p ante on Go en Hills Court and stated that if the
Commissioners were going to recommend the Hillsborough curb and gutter section to
be used for Golden Hills Court, that they also recommend to the City Council that
when the Town builds its roads, that they use this type of street section. The
Hillsborough curb provided a means of escape for bicycle riders that was not avail-
able with the standard vertical curb.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED UNANIMOUSLY: It was moved by Commissioner Dochnahl,
seconded by Commissioner Reeves, and passed by unanimous roll call vote to .recommend
to the City Council that road construction for Lands of Astra Estates use a shortened
cross-section road curb, similar to that used by Hillsborough, and further, recommended
E that lampblack be used to color the concrete so that it matches the asphalt as closely
as possible.
2. Environmental Desian Committee Proposal re: Ordinance on Fencinq:
Mrs. Ginzton, Environmental Design Committee, discussed the Committee's proposed
or finance on fencing or subdivisions.
PASSED BY CONSENSUS: That the following statement regarding a proposed ordinance
on fencing be recommended to the City Council: No subdivision shall be enclosed
in whole or in part by a contiguous fence or wall of any kind.
3. Arastradero Road Improvement Project
Chairman Stewart reported to the Commission the results of the Planning Commission
meeting in Palo Alto on October 18. Pointed out to the Commission were the dis-
crepancies between the traffic count by Palo Alto (7,500 cars) and the Town of
Los Altos Hills' traffic count in 1975 of 8,600 cars for Arastradero Road, noting
that Palo Alto did not feel concern on the difference in figures for traffic count.
Chairman Stewart said that it was his feeling and the feeling of residents along
Arastradero Road that the road should remain as it is. A traffic light should be
installed at Page Mill and Deer Creek, and a new traffic survey on Arastradero be
taken. He also stated that a combined bicycle and pedestrian path, with a separate
equestrian path should be provided. Further noted was that the City Council
of Palo Alto would meet soon on the matter. Residents and Planning Commissioners
would be notified of this meeting.
iliiw Mrs. Ginzton, Environmental Design Committee, discussed her efforts to obtain
paths for bicycles along Arastradero Road, as well as her recommendations on efforts
by the Town to obtain funds to build paths. She also spoke for some safety measures
to be taken by Palo Alto to permit a left-hand turn onto Purissima Road.
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OLD BUSINESS: (continued)
A short discussion between Mrs. Ginzton and Chairman Stewart took place regarding
her recommendation of a path for bicycle traffic on either side of Arastradero Road.
It was Chairman Stewart's feeling that such a path on either side of the road was
not necessary.
NEW BUSINESS:
It was noted that the second Planning Commission meeting would fall on November 22,
the night before Thanksgiving. It was the consensus that the meeting be changed
to November 20.
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further new or old business, the meeting was adjourned at 11:45 p.m.
to the meeting scheduled for Sunday, October 29.
Respectfully submitted,
Ethel Hopkins
Secretary