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4 PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
TOWN OF LOS ALTOS HILLS
26379 FREMONT ROAD
LOS ALTOS HILLS, CALIFORNIA
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 28TH, 1990
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1. ROLL CALL AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Present: Chairman Emling and Commissioners Comiso, Carico, Jones, Noel, Pahl,
Stutz.
Absent: None.
Staff: Bill Ekern, Director of Public Works; Ann Jamison, Planning Director.
2. CONSENT CALENDAR
2.1 Approval of the Minutes of February 14th, 1990.
Commissioner Carico removed the Minutes of February 14th, 1990 from the Consent
Calandar to clarify her disclosure under LANDS OF THE TOWN OF LOS ALTOS HILLS
Planning Commission Disclosures that she had been on the Site Development
Committee when the application for the Page Mill Road site was under consideration.
She also wished to clarify under item 6.1, paragraph two of the Public Hearing that they
had been looking for a site for 2-1/2 years.
She also wished to include in the minutes, under LANDS OF QUARRY HILLS
Planning Commission Disclosures on page 8 regarding social contacts with Mr. John
Vidovich, the disclosures of the social contacts of each of the commissioners as stated at
that meeting.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Moved by Stutz, seconded by Carico, and passed
to approve the minutes of January 24th, 1990.
AYES: Chairman Emling and Commissioners Carico, Comiso, Jones, Pahl, Stutz.
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
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i ABSTAIN: Commissioner Noel
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3. REPORT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF FEBRUARY 21ST. 1990
Chairman Emling reported that at Council Member van Tamelen's request he updated
the Council on LANDS OF QUARRY HILLS, noting the Planning Commission had
requested information relative to the geotechnical issues of the proposal necessary for
making recommendations to the City Council.
4. REPORT FROM THE SITE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING OF
FEBRUARY 27TH, 1990
January 27th: Ann Jamison reported that one application was reviewed and approved:
Gutshall - Landscaping, swimming pool, decking, bridge for a new residence recently
constructed in the vicinity of a creek. She noted concerns related to the site, and
outlined the conditions, including requirement to repair pathway damage, obtain Fish
& Game approval, return with a landscape plan for Staff review addressing native and
riparian plantings concerns of the Site Development Committee.
` 5. PRESENTATIONS FROM THE FLOOR
�+ There were no presentations from the floor.
6. PUBLIC HEARINGS
6.1 LANDS OF FE TN ANNEXATION, Prospect Avenue and La Loma Drive, A
proposal to establish Residential -Agricultural (R -A) zoning for this 35 acre
annexation.
Ann Jamison introduced this item, referring to the Staff report. In response to a
concern that the staff report was misleading, she clarified that R-vl is a General Plan
designation, R -A is a Zoning Code designation, as is OSP, and the General Plan does call
for the property to be used as very low residential. The R -A zoning designation is
appropriate for that.
Planning Commission Disclosures
Commissioner Pahl had visited the site prior to consideration as a subdivision and
spoke with the applicant last Wednesday evening regarding the plan and zoning.
Commissioner Noel visited the site and had no contact with the applicants.
Commissioner Stutz had no contact with the applicants since the Tentative Map was
L considered by the Commission. Chairman Emling visited the site at the Tentative Map
ker stage and spoke with Mrs. Morgan last Wednesday evening about her concerns.
Commissioner Jones drove by the site and had been involved in some of the hearings
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for the site previously. Commissioner Comiso had been by the site and spoke with Mr.
Finn last Wednesday evening, but not about this application. She also spoke with
Sallie Morgan who had concerns regarding lots in the subdivision, not relative to this
application. Commissioner Comiso had nothing to disclose and hadn't been on the
property since the Tentative Map stage.
The Public Hearing was opened.
Ed Willi, 24488 Prospect Road, questioned possibilities for undergrounding utilities on
properties adjacent to the Finn property.
At the commissioners request, Ann Jamison clarified that the utilites on the Finn
property will be underground. Bill Ekern clarified that pole undergrounding is not a
requirement in general, and only within the subdivision itself would the utilities be
placed underground.
The Public Hearing was closed
�✓ MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Pahl, seconded by Emling to
recommend to the City Council adoption of Staff Recommendations for the
establishment of Residential -Agricultural (R -A) zoning for the entire 35 acres that
comprise the LANDS OF FINN Annexation noting that the zone does comply with the
R-vl (residential -very low) General Plan designation for the property in alignment with
the guidelines of the General Plan.
AYES: Chairman Emling and Commissioners Carico, Comiso, Jones, Noel, Pahl, Stutz
NOES: None
6.2 LANDS OF BROWN, 11470 Summit Wood Road, a request for variances to
the 30' sideyard setback and maximum floor area requirements of the Zoning
Code.
Ann Jamison introduced this item, outlining the application and Staff's concerns. She
noted that if the Planning Commission could make all four findings necessary for the
variance, they would need to define the conditions of approval.
Planning Commission Disclosures
Chairman Emling visited the site and spoke with Mrs. Brown before walking the
4W property that afternoon. Commissioner Stutz visited the property and spoke with Mrs.
Brown regarding the application that afternoon; she had no further contact with the
applicants. Commissioner Noel drove by the site and had no contact with the
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applicants. Commissioner Pahl visited the site. Commissioner Jones visited the site
and spoke with Mrs. Brown regarding the application. He received additional
information, which he noted may or may not be relevant, regarding family hardship,
problems with the house. He also spoke with Commissioner Comiso regarding
structural difficulties. Noting he is not a structural engineer, Commissioner Jones
offered to relate additional information he had obtained and more of his conversation
with Commissioner Comiso if the Commission wanted. Commissioner Comiso spoke
with the Browns and visited the site many times. She had spoken with Mrs. Brown
regarding the foundation. The Browns had told her that when they bought the property,
they were aware they would have to do structural work. And, Commissioner Comiso
called the Browns shortly after the earthquake and found there had been a great deal of
damage. Commissioner Comiso suggested the Browns call the Town Building Official
for an inspection. Commissioner Comiso also reported that she had contacted the
building department in the City of Van Nuys, California, to see what had been done
with split level houses in that city after they had experienced earthquake related
damages. She noted she would bring up relevant information with staff in the
discussion of this item. Commissioner Carico visited the property and had not spoken
with the Browns.
The Public Hearing was opened.
Mrs. Brown, 11470 Summit Wood Court referred to her letter to the Town dated
January 10th, 1990 and explained that she wanted a three -car garage and wanted to
improve the home so that people could find the front door. She and her family moved
to the Hills just over a year ago and and had considered adding a one -car garage, but
their first priority was to put a foundation under three-quarters of the home. A
structural engineer had told them the home was not constructed correctly originally,
and suggested the second story, which ends in the middle of the garage door opening, be
supported with a pole. The pole is in place on the left side of the garage and with a deck
in the way of entrance to the left side, they are limited to parking on the right side of
the garage only. She further explained that after the earthquake, the house was
inspected by the Town Building Official who found the garage to be unsafe. The
engineer they hired concurred and noted that the garage is the weakest, most
vulnerable portion of the house, built on loose fill. Mrs. Brown noted that the
children's rooms are in the second story above the garage. The engineer suggested the
wall be closed up and sheer wall constructed. Mrs. Brown noted that she had gone to
the neighbors adjacent to the proposed construction and with the neighbors concluded
they were unable to see the proposed addition. She further noted her neighbors had
written to the Town in support of the project.
ker Mrs. Brown also related the hardships her family is experiencing relative to the October
earthquake. She outlined time constraints for insurance purposes: doing the driveway
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is dependent on garage approval and the insurance company will limit reimbursement
for the driveway to 50% if work hasn't begun within 180 days of the earthquake. Her
family continues to feel the emotional affects of the earthquake and are very concerned
that the home will collapse with another earthquake.
Commissioner Pahl questioned Mrs. Brown regarding possibilites for a two -car adjacent
garage that wouldn't go into the setback and would only exceed the MFA slightly. He
suggested a two -car detached garage and a single -car garage within the existing
structure.
Mrs. Brown responded that because the garage is built on fill, they are very concerned
with safety and she feels the best way to address the problem is to close the existing
garage off.
Commissioner Carico questioned what options the Town had provided for
consideration. Mrs. Brown responded that a two -car garage on existing paved area was
suggested.
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additional one -car garage and turret without requiring any variance prior to the
earthquake. Ann Jamison responded that it probably would have been allowed, but
couldn't respond definitely without further review.
The Public Hearing was closed.
Commissioner Comiso questioned what could make the garage safe. Ann Jamison
responded, noting she is not an engineer, but that as had been suggested, options
involving reduction of the open area on the garage, and foundation and structural
beam alternatives could improve the safety of the existing garage area.
Commissioner Comiso noted that per her conversation with Mr. Tinly, a structural
engineer with the City of Van Nuys Building Department, correcting this type of
damage to split level homes where the two levels were not tied from exterior wall to
exterior wall requires the use of numerous straps, or an inverted frame which is major
remodeling. A house built on poorly compacted fill, with an opening for the garage
and no continuous line of sheer -wall to hold the house together, would be impossible
to make safe.
Bill Ekern noted that building the one wall does not address all the issues relevant to
the site and residence that can be addressed with current technology. If the house is to
be upgraded to current seismic standards, major substantive structural modifications to
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the foundation are necessary, requiring very specific data involving soils, structure, and
additional information for a comprehensive engineering analysis.
Commissioner Carico noted her appreciation of Commissioner Comiso's efforts to
obtain information regarding earthquake damage to this type of house, but felt only a
professional could tell the applicants how to address the problems with this home. She
also noted her preference for continuing this item to a meeting in which the applicant's
engineer can respond to any questions the Town Engineer had regarding the proposal.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Pahl, seconded by Noel to approve the
variances to the setback and MFA requirements of the zoning code, including a turret,
based on the following Finding 1: that due to the exceptional circumstance of the
October 17, 1989 earthquake, strict application of the Zoning Code deprives the owners
of something they would have been entitled to, that is an additional one -car garage; and
with Findings 2, 3, and 4; and conditioned on the following: that the applicant's
structural engineer provides correspondence to Town Staff indicating that, in his
opinion, reducing the current garage to a single -car garage door opening would not
adequately satisfy the structural integrity of the garage and structure, however, in the
event that it is possible to leave the single -car opening, the applicant is required to
reduce the detached garage to a two -car garage of no more than 550 square feet, and no
setback variance is included in this alternative.
AYES: Chairman Emling and Commissioners Comiso, Jones, Noel, Pahl, Stutz
NOES: Commissioner Carico
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Pahl, seconded by Jones that the
application not be required to go through the Site Development Committee level
process, but return to Staff for review and determination of Site Development
conditions.
AYES: Commissioners Comiso, Jones, Noel, Pahl
NOES: Chairman Emling and Commissioner Carico, Stutz
6.3 LANDS OF QUARRY HILLS, Stonebrook Drive, continuation of a Public
Hearing for consideration of a General Plan Amendment, Zoning Ordinance
Amendment, Annexation, Pre -zoning and Tentative Map for a 21 -lot
subdivision on a 358 acre site.
Bill Ekern introduced this item, continued from the February 14th, 1990 Planning
Commission meeting, noting the issues Staff has proposed for review generally relate
to the steep slope, geotechnical hazards, native vegetation, potential visual and
aesthetic environmental impacts. He introduced William Cotton, Town Geologist.
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Mr. Cotton presented a history of his involvement with this application, and noted two
prominent issues regarding slope instability that need to be addressed. 1) Stability of
the Quarry walls, primarily on the Stonebrook side of the quarry, is in question. This
issue may be resolved if basic geological assumptions relative to the Quarry walls can be
agreed upon with the applicant and his consultants. 2) Landslides: The South and
Southwestern portions of the development, lots 2, 4 - 16 and 18 are at the bottom of
steep topography. These debris flow hazards are difficult to mitigate and the possibility
exists of a high probability of personal injury or death. Mr. Cotton has determined that
with the terrain, slopes, and material deposits there and clear geologic evidence, the
area is one of debris flow. His findings were confirmed by Professor Dietrich of the
University of California, Berkeley an expert in debris flow, who studied the site at Mr.
Cotton's request. Mr. Cotton has asked the applicant's geologist to address these
findings.
Mr. Cotton presented a series of photographs of debris flows in the Bay Area to help
define his concerns. He explained these soil failures are liquid -like, flow downhill at
high speeds, and have great mobility, flowing great distances. He also noted that it has
been suggested that once the vegetation and trees have been established there will be no
flows, but in his experience, this is not the case.
Commissioner Pahl questioned the commonalities between the slides and what exists
in the quarry. Mr. Cotton responded that the materials and steepness of the hills are the
same. He clarified that he was not saying the hazards cannot be addressed, but that it is
necessary to understand the problem and conceivably the debris flow hazards could be
mapped and built around or failure could be planned for and devices built to catch the
debris as it comes off.
Commissioner Jones questioned the extent of effort necessary to contain the debris
flows. Mr. Cotton responded that, while he is not necessarily advocating it, that is how
these concerns are addressed with present technology.
Planning Commission Disclosures:
Commissioner Noel was absent from the Planning Commission meeting of February
14, 1990 when the other commissioners made their statements of disclosure, and
disclosed that he had no conflict of interest, noting he had visited the site with other
commissioners (publicly noticed), and had no social contact with Mr. Vidovich.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Noel, seconded by Pahl and passed by
consensus to re -open the Public Hearing.
The Public Hearing was opened.
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Dr. Howard Martin, 11666 Dawson Drive referred to the instability of walls around the
site and questioned whether the walls around the lake would be particulary hazardous.
Mr. Cotton responded that the applicant's geologist has been asked to address concerns
relative to when the lake is filled. He noted that the tailings and loose gravel off the
walls have been addressed preliminarily, but that the major concerns relate to possible
more massive failure of the walls. He noted the applicant had been asked to address
the failure of the quarry walls just beyond Stonebrook
Libby Lucas, 174 Yerba Santa, Los Altos, further questioned the grading of the quarry
walls and whether all geotechnical issues would be addressed before the City Council
heard the proposal.
Mr. Cotton noted that the applicant's geologist has been asked to analyze existing
conditions and present proposals to address the issues involved. When the
information would be available was dependent on the applicant's geologist.
Dr. Martin expressed concerns relative to the layout of the sewer system, that it had
4 changed from the original proposal, and the possibility that the sewer will go a
considerable distance, through open space and through a greenbelt. He noted there
were apparently plans to pave an existing dirt road for maintenance access, per Los
Altos Sewer.
Bryan Crynes, 11665 Dawson, felt there had been redefinition of the rules for easements
in allowing a 15 -foot wide road, and this sewer proposal would have a significant
negative impact. He noted that he had spoken with Bill Ekern, who wasn't aware of
this plan.
At Commissioner Carico's request, Bill Ekern explained that the plans for the sewer had
come to the Town and been reviewed, the site studied for potential impacts.
He clarified that the Town had no intention of paving, nor, did he believe, had Mr.
Vidovich. He noted that the Town has considerable involvement in defining the
terms with Los Altos Sewer and resident's and Staff's concerns would be addressed. He
also clarified that the subdivision sewer proposal allows for gravity flow out of the
subdivision to connect with upper Dawson, rather than pumping up onto Stonebrook.
This has been the proposal since the 43 -lot subdivision proposal was submitted.
Ms. Lucas noted that at the EIR stage, the proposal was to pump up to Stonebrook. She
expressed concern with running sewers near the creek and suggested economic
consideration were the motivation to run the lines down hill.
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Mr. Crynes noted he was told Los Altos Sewer would designate how they were going to
serve the proposed line.
Mr. Harry Emerzian, 11670 Dawson noted the rapidly changing information regarding
this development. He felt much of the beauty of the area had been lost and hopes it can
be returned to its former state. He also expressed concerns that residents at the low
point of the topography could be "wiped out" if anything happened.
Carol Gottlieb, 24920 Summerhill, encouraged preservation of the open space, noting
its beauty, and noting the homes along the stream are some of the nicest in Town.
John Vidovich, DeAnza Properties, responded to issues raised. He noted one condition
of his reclamation plan was to provide sewers to assist the lake in maintaining its
purity. He noted his belief that the sewer proposal was logically placed. He further
agreed that a paved maintenance road would be detrimental. Mr. Vidovich also
indicated his intent to ask the City Council for an extension on the project. And he
clarified that he has hired a new geologist, one of several recommended to him at his
4� request by Mr. Cotton. The Commission questioned how much time Mr. Vidovich
expected his geologist might require to address the various geotechnical issues and
return to the Planning Commission. Mr. Vidovich noted he hoped to have
information within 45 days.
The commissioners reviewed the recommendations defined at the last Planning
Commission meeting and discussed possibilities for redefining recommendations.
Commissioner Carico noted legal counsel would be necessary before the annexation
issue, which passed unanimously, could be readdressed. She also noted objection to
any pressure to take action based on what the applicant said he might or might not do.
The commissioners discussed the information they felt was necessary for consideration
in making a recommendation to the City Council. Commissioner Noel noted that they
wouldn't have enough information to make recommendations until Mr. Cotton
reviewed the project.
Bill Ekern clarified Staff's recommendations that the commissioners review the
essential concepts of what is involved and define recommendations based on these
concepts, to direct how the particular conditions that come back should be addressed.
Commissioner Comiso noted she agreed with Commissioner Noel, and was opposed to
making assumptions on issues without the geotechnical information.
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Chairman Emling noted he felt it was appropriate for the Commission to request an
extension and that Mr. Vidovich was asking for an extension.
Commissioner Pahl noted he was offended that Staff and others would have the
Commission speculate and assume certain criterion regarding the project in making
recommendations to the Council. He further noted that Mr. Cotton doesn't know the
conditions existing on the property and he felt the photographic presentation was
inappropriate. He noted the geotechnical issues should be looked into in more detail.
Mr. Pahl noted that what Mr. Cotton says could change the opinion of commissioners,
and they would be making a decision without all geotechnical information. He noted
that speculating as to what could happen down the road was not reasonable, and would
not be a fulfilment of their responsibility as commissioners.
Commissioner Carico noted Mr. Pahl was a new Planning Commissioner. She also
noted that Mr. Cotton is an outstanding professional. She clarified that Mr. Cotton
didn't say that debris flows might exist, rather that they do exist, and the photographs
he presented were to show what debris flows looked like. She also thanked Staff for a
job well done.
Karen Emerzian, 11670 Dawson, expressed concern regarding the proposed sewer line
and the pathway previously discussed. She noted the proposed junction of the sewer
lines is where her property is, and expressed preference for having the line go up to
Stonebrook.
Evelyn Martin, 11666 Dawson Drive, expressed concern that the present pathway is
designated for emergency vehicle access, only. If the sewer is placed there, construction
trucks will also have to go through.
Commissioner Stutz noted that the Town did have vehicular access from the top of the
hill that goes down through the lot already. The property owners are already aware of
this designation, so no vehicles should access from the pathway in question. She also
noted that she had seen the flags for the sanitary sewer in April of 1989 and was
concerned that the trees would be damaged; she understood from Staff that any damage
to the path would be repaired.
Virginia Crynes, 11665 Dawson, expressed concerns that heavy equipment would be
going across their property. There is a 10' sewer easement on the property to maintain
the existing sewer, and she understood that if the sewer was extended, the road would
have to be paved to allow large trucks access as the soil is very soft.
John Vidovich noted he couldn't see the need for a paved road and questioned whether
this was a way for Los Altos Sewer to stop his reclamation plan. In response to
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questions from Ms. Lucas, Mr. Vidovich also outlined his rationale for the proposed
sewer line, that the existing septic system was not the best system as nutrients could
leak out and more sewer properly placed would be of benefit. He also noted that
pumping up to Stonebrook would require long-term maintenance, which is not
desirable.
The Public Hearing was closed.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Comiso, seconded by Jones to
recommend the City Council grant an extension and that discussion be deferred until
the Commission has the necessary geotechnical information.
AYES: Chairman Emling and Commissioners Comiso, Jones, Noel, Pahl, Stutz
NOES: Commissioner Carico
7. NEW BUSINESS
7.1 Review of an application referred from Santa Clara County, Lands of
Gorham/Shuler, 15829 Stonebrook Road, a request to Santa Clara County for a
variance to the required 30 -foot setback requirement for an existing structure
and a new addition.
Ann Jamison introduced this item, referring to the Staff Report and noted the County
was trying to get all non -conforming structures to go through variance proceedings.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Carico, second by Pahl and passed by
consensus to recommend to the County that this property be required to annex to the
Town and further develop in conformance with the Town regulations and via Town
processes.
Commissioner Stutz noted that she had visited the site. She questioned whether any
other commissioners had been to the site. She noted that as none of the other
commissioners had visited the site they should not vote on recommendations.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Noel, seconded by Carico to
recommend to the County that the new addition be required to comply with the 30'
setback requirement. The motion passed with Commissioner Stutz dissenting.
No action was taken regarding directing comments to the County relative to the
variances the County is requiring for the existing structures.
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7.2 Discussion of a proposal by Commissioner Carico to tape Site Development
meetings.
Commissioner Carico noted that in the event that a commissioner was unable to attend
Site Development, tapes would afford them the opportunity to hear what had
transpired.
The commissioners discussed the benefits of taping the meetings and at Ann Jamison's
request, clarified that minutes would not be expected.
PASSED BY CONSENSUS to tape Planning Commission Site Development meetings
and retain the tapes for a two year time period.
7.3 Planning Commission chair appointments to the newly created sub-
committee to address issues related to rebuilding and building out.
Chairman Emling asked for volunteers for the subcommittee. Commissioners Carico
and Pahl volunteered.
7.4 Discussion of Planning Commission Rules of Order.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Pahl, seconded by Carico and passed
by consensus to adopt Roberts Rules of Order so long as the Town's Municipal Code
provided for that option.
Chairman Emling referred to the Joint Meeting scheduled for Saturday, March 10th,
1990 to note that he was unable to attend on this date until after 11:00 a.m.
Commissioners Carico and Stutz also noted schedule conflicts. The commissioners and
City Council representative Mayor Toni Casey discussed possibilities for
rescheduling; Monday evening April 2nd or 9th, or Saturday, April 7 were possibilities
referred to Ms. Casey for discussion at the next City Council meeting.
8. OLD BUSINESS
8.1 Discussion of Site Development controls related to the color of structures.
The commissioners discussed non -reflective earthtones, the relevance of the
characteristics of the site to dictating certain colors, and the effects of surface materials,
like stucco. Staff was directed to establish a color chart denoting which colors were
4 appropriate for various types of topography.
8.2 Discussion of the Planning Commission Work Program.
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PASSED BY CONSENSUS to defer this item to a future Planning Commission meeting.
9. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Stutz asked that a walkway on the corner of Concepcion and Purissima
be inspected to verify its placement,as it was conditioned to be adjacent to the property
line.
Commissioner Pahl noted a new silver cyclone fence and suggested it is time to
consider a fence ordinance. Ann Jamison noted that Staff does attempt to impose
conditions on applicants for green vinyl covering on cyclone fencing and adequate
mitigation. Ms. Jamison also asked for clear direction from the Commission relative to
fences. Commissioner Pahl asked that this be agendized for a subsequent Planning
Commission meeting.
Chairman Emling noted that Chaparral Road at Moody needed attention due to recent
rains. Bill Ekern noted this was a private road and he would contact the association
4 responsible for maintenance of the road.
The meeting was adjourned by consensus at 10:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Laura Johnson
Planning Secretary
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