HomeMy WebLinkAbout05/22/1991APPROVED
PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
TOWN OF LOS ALTOS HILLS
26379 FREMONT ROAD
LOS ALTOS HILLS, CALIFORNIA
WEDNESDAY, MAY 22ND, 1991
cc: Cassettes #9-91(1),9-91(2)
1. ROLL CALL AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Present: Vice Chairman Noel and Commissioners Carico, Comiso, Ellinger, Pahl
Absent: Chairman Jones and Commissioner Stutz
Staff: Bill Ekern, Director of Public Works; Cynthia Richardson, Planning
Consultant; Laura Johnson, Planning Secretary
2. PRESENTATIONS FROM THE FLOOR
There were no presentations from the floor.
3. CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Pahl, seconded by Comiso and
passed by consensus to approve the consent calendar, specifically:
3.1 LANDS OF LAUB, 27210 Fremont Road: Acceptance of an application for a
tentative subdivision map.
4. PUBLIC HEARINGS
4.1 LANDS OF CHIANG, 26288 W. Fremont Road: A request for a site
Development permit for a secondary dwelling unit.
Cynthia Richardson introduced this item, noting the conformance of the second
unit to the provisions of the Second Unit Ordinance and Staff's recommendation of
approval subject to the conditions listed in the Staff Report.
Commissioner Pahl referred to Staff Recommended Condition #7, noting he felt it
was not necessary to have setbacks verified by a surveyor when construction is not
proximate to the setbacks, as in this project, because of the high costs involved. He
also noted Condition #6 as written was confusing, requesting it be rewritten for
clarification.
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The Public Hearing was opened.
Dennis Chiang, applicant, noted in response to a question from Commissioner Pahl
that he felt Staff Recommended Condition #7 requiring setback verification was not
necessary. He clarified, in regard to Condition #6, that the proposed development
was to occur within an existing fence, and the trees are beyond the fence.
Bill Ekern clarified that verification of setback location was a standard condition as
the drawings are not signed by an engineer as to the location of the residence. He
clarified that the costs of having an engineer certify the plans are comparable to
verification in the field.
The Public Hearing was closed.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Carico, seconded by Comiso and
passed to approve the Site Development permit with Staff Recommended
Conditions 1 - 7.
AYES: Vice Chairman Noel and Commissioners Carico, Comiso, Ellinger,
NOES: Commissioner Pahl
ABSENT: Chairman Jones and Commissioner Stutz
4.2 LANDS OF JANAC, 24220 Summerhill Avenue: A request for a Site
Development permit for Grading and Retaining Walls
Bill Ekern introduced this item, noting the applicant's concerns regarding the
structural integrity of the basement wall subsequent to the October 1989 earthquake
were the basis for the proposed project. The applicant and engineers met with Staff
to discuss the project several time. Staff has determined that while the project
entails a considerable amount of grading, it is for the protection of the residence and
therefore approval is recommended subject to mitigation with landscaping and the
conditions outlined in the Staff Report.
The Public Hearing was opened.
Jim Walsh, project civil engineer, noted the applicant's agreement with the Staff
Report, introducing the Janacs, Don Peterson - structural engineer, and Ed Kwan -
landscape architect. He noted the Janacs had spoken with the adjacent neighbors,
receiving verbal acceptance of the proposed project, as well as written approval from
Mr. Wilkinson.
Bob Worcester, 24221 Hillview Drive, noted he reviewed the plans and thought the
` project looked great. He noted concern with heavy equipment accessing the
`r property.
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Mr. Ekern clarified that grading to the rear of the property will not change. All
heavy equipment will access the property via the front drive as there is no other
means of access.
Dot Schreiner, 14301 Saddle Mountain Drive, Pathways Chair, noted the Committee
requested a Type II -B path in the road right-of-way. The Committee asked for the
fence in the road right-of-way to be moved back to the setback line, or location of the
path inside the fence.
The Janacs noted they had no objection to the request. Mr. Janac noted they wished
to retain the soil from cut on site to avoid heavy trucks using Summerhill Avenue
to haul the excess away.
In response to a question from Commissioner Carico, Bill Ekern noted there was no
plan for distributing excess dirt on the property. Of concern is the possible use of fill
to change the contours toward the front of the property. Any fill would be required
to be done under the direction of a soils engineer.
Mr. Walsh suggested the possibility of submitting a grading plan for Staff level
review, noting they just didn't have a plan at this time but there was room on the
site for placement of fill. He clarified that there would be about 840 cubic yards of
`, excess soil.
The Public Hearing was closed.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Comiso, seconded by Carico and
passed to approve the Site Development permit with Staff Recommended
Conditions 1 - 6, and the following conditions:
7. A Type II -B pathway shall be constructed in the road right-of-way
8. Fence shall be moved to the reference line.
9. Excess dirt from grading shall be removed from site or a grading plan submitted
for the review and approval of Staff engineering use of dirt on site.
AYES: Vice Chairman Noel and Commissioners Carico, Comiso, Ellinger, Pahl
NOES: None
ABSENT: Chairman Jones and Commissioner Stutz
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4.3 LANDS OF SHOCKLEY, 27781 Edgerton Road: A request for a Site
Development permit for a New Residence and Swimming Pool
Cynthia Richardson introduced this item, outlining the quantitative information.
She noted the design generally follows the natural contours of the site, and requires
minimal grading.
Commissioner Pahl noted concern with the wording of Staff Recommended
Condition #8, requiring replacement and protection of trees.
Commissioner Ellinger noted concern with the stability of the soil and subsurface
drainage.
The Public Hearing was opened.
David Lin, 27764 Edgerton Road, noted concern that if on-site water is not treated
properly it will flow into his house, and that there is not much space for a pool on
the site, and encouraged preservation of existing Oak trees.
Kenneth Wright, 27791 Edgerton Road, referred to his letter to the Town regarding
the proposed development. He noted soil in the area is very unstable. There is an
underground stream that runs continuously, and homes above his have had serious
foundation damage because of the water. He noted a branch off the main stream
feeds under his house, and expressed concern that grading may direct the main
stream of water onto his property.
Commissioner Pahl clarified that one of the standard Conditions of Approval
disallows runoff from being directed to any one place, and that the drainage plan for
the proposed development must eliminate any increase in intensity of flow of water
off site.
Bill Ekern noted the instability of soil and landslides in this area, and the
importance of keeping water from destabilizing the area. The applicant proposes to
build structures, acceptable to Staff to get the water past the unstable areas, and does
have permits from the Department of Fish and Game to do work near the creek.
Putting the driveways and downspouts into a system that is going into the creek
isn't necessary, however.
Commissioner Ettinger questioned whether any tests had been undertaken to verify
whether existing leachfields drain into the subsurface aquifer. Mr. Wright noted he
didn't know of any tests.
i Ms. Richardson noted the proposed project was approved by the Santa Clara County
Health Department. Mr. Ekern clarified that there was no aquifer but groundwater
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seepage, and it is the Health Department's obligation to make a field survey of the
area.
Mr. Wright noted concerns with foundation damage and the direction of effluence
onto his property associated with the leachfield and existing groundwater.
Richard Shockley, 12006 Moody Springs Court, applicant, noted he had been
working with the property for approximately six years. He noted the Health
Department informed him of a neighbor's concerns with underground water. Mr.
Shockley noted that the original percolation tests were run on the property in the
late 70's, in a very wet year. The Health Department requested trenching and three
trenches 15 feet deep were dug on the site in February and March of 1991 and no
evidence of recent water was found. The Health Department obtained samples at
that time.
In response to a question from Commissioner Carico, Mr. Shockley clarified that
Cotton's office indicated that as work proceeds, they would like to review the plans,
however everything to this point is acceptable to them. He noted that a system was
engineered to stabilize the part of the hill that does have problems, addressing a
situation he felt was created with the construction of a neighboring tennis court.
Commissioner Carico noted that she thought there had been consideration of
placing the whole area in a conservation easement.
Cheryl Americh, 27801 Edgerton Road, noted concern with water on the site. She
also noted concern for the Coombs, that water would drain underneath their house.
She suggested there was perhaps a reason why a house wasn't built on the site when
Edgerton was originally developed.
Philip Choong, 27769 Edgerton Road, noted his property has been in a dispute for
four years with Mr. Shockley. He noted problems with surface water and an adjacent
neighbor's leachfield. He explained the water appears to have bacteria, and appears
to be coming from the leachfield. He noted that because of the water, his tennis
court never settled properly. Mr. Choong expressed concern with the impact of
development on the landslides in the area.
In response to a question from Commissioner Comiso, Mr. Choong noted the water
was tested in 1986 and he had a report issued in 1987.
Mr. Shockley wished to clarify that Mr. Choong was talking about his own and his
neighbor's property, not the subject property. He noted that PSC Associates did
groundwater testing on the subject property in 1989 and determined that the bacteria
in the water is the kind that is found naturally.
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In response to a question from Commissioner Ellinger, Mr. Shockley noted the PSC
Associates test had not been submitted to the Health Department. They surmised
the water was surface water, and it was part of the lawsuit with the Lands of Choong
as the Choong property's drainage lines drain onto the subject property. He noted
they looked into connection to sewer but the closest sewer was about 700 yards away.
Commissioner Ellinger asked Mr. Shockley's consideration of a condition of
approval that verification is obtained from the Health Department that there is no
lateral contamination from the leachfield to any underground water. Mr. Shockley
responded that it may be an issue of trying to get a guarantee from the Health
Department that they may not be willing to give to anyone.
In response to a question from Vice Chairman Noel, Mr. Shockley noted he had no
objections to the Staff Recommended Conditions.
The Public Hearing was closed.
In response to a question from Commissioner Carico, Bill Ekern clarified that
Edgerton Road purchased sewer capacity but there are no current plans to build a
sewer.
`, In response to a question from Commissioner Comiso, Mr. Ekern noted the Health
Department evaluates percolation rates and whether leachfield design falls within
Town requirements, not the direction the leachate goes. Mr. Shockley's reports
indicate no groundwater was encountered in the borings. Mr. Ekern noted there is
undoubtedly surface runoff and his experience has been that there are pockets of
underground springs, most of the water coming from lack of maintenance of septic
drainfields or mishandling of storm drainage.
Commissioner Carico suggested both Mr. Choong's report of 1987 and Mr. Shockley's
report of 1989 be submitted to Staff for review.
Commissioner Ellinger clarified that his concern was with contamination, and not
the quantity of water. He suggested the Health Department run lateral transit tests.
If in light of information provided they determine the tests are not necessary, that is
acceptable. The aquifer can continue to flow, but the Shockleys and neighbors will
know whether it is safe.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Pahl, seconded by Ellinger and
passed to approve the Site Development permit with Staff Recommended
Conditions 1 - 7, and 9, and the following conditions:
8. Six trees are proposed to be removed from the site. The trees are to be replaced
with trees of a size no less than 24" box if larger, or equal to the size of the trees
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which are removed, and if any other trees are damaged beyond repair or
destroyed, they shall be replaced. Fencing at the dripline is required during
construction. No equipment or debris shall be stored beneath the dripline.
10. Santa Clara County Health Department shall provide certification that due
diligence has been exercised in determining whether any lateral water transit is
present on the site and will not pose a health hazard to the stage where it affects
adjacent properties. Mr. Shockley and Mr. Chang shall submit their respective
reports of 1989 and 1987 to Staff to be forwarded to the Santa Clara County
Health Department for review.
AYES: Vice Chairman Noel and Commissioners Carico, Comiso, Ellinger, Pahl
NOES: None
ABSENT: Chairman Jones and Commissioner Stutz
The Planning Commission took a brief intermission.
4.4 LANDS OF FINN, 12000 Finn Lane: A request for a Site Development
permit for a Tennis Court, Swimming Pool, and Cabana
Bill Ekern introduced this item, clarifying that the property address is 12002 Finn
�W Lane. He noted Staff's recommendation of approval of the cabana, but cited concern
with the amount of fill proposed to elevate it and the pool. He noted Staff
recommended denial of the pool and tennis court because the volume of fill for this
development is to reshape the lot, and they could be re -oriented to lay with the
contours lessening the impact of grading. The tennis court is in the flattest part of
the lot and the majority of grading for it is associated with the 6 foot berm around its
perimeter. He noted eliminating artificial elevation of the cabana and pool would
provide greater flexibility in laying out the site.
Commissioner Pahl noted Mr. Finn had indicated that lot #2 may at some date be
sold off as a separate parcel. Lot #2's tennis court looks like it is a perfect siting for a
proposed house. He also noted the site has been subject to a great deal of re -
contouring.
Mr. Ekern clarified that the cut material on the site is there from the subdivision. It
is not permitted on the lot as a lot configuration but this permit would validate its
use on the site. Rotating the court to run parallel to the contours was not critical but
would limit the volume of grading and may lower the profile of the court.
Lowering the cabana and the pool down to grade and re -orienting to run on
contours, as the Town ordinances suggest, seems like more reasonable land use.
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Commissioner Pahl referred to the tennis court and questioned whether it would be
better to have a berm and a smaller fence so the court doesn't loom over the
subdivision. Mr. Ekern noted the mitigation potential of the berm. He noted a
tennis court elevation of 562, pad elevation for the cabana of elevation 562 - 563, and
the pool turned parallel at elevation 566 were reasonable.
The Public Hearing was opened.
Steven Finn, 12000 Finn Lane, applicant, noted the direction of the tennis court is
important in that the sun is a big factor and they would like to orient the tennis
court North-South. He also noted his interest in keeping the excess soil within the
subdivision. They had cut from lot #1 and planned to use it on lot #2 to avoid
exporting. He noted willingness to do whatever necessary with drainage on the site.
And, he noted he liked the proposed berm along the perimeter of the tennis court so
the court is not visible from the street.
In response to a question from Commissioner Pahl, Mr. Finn noted he was
interested in compromising regarding the height of the cabana and pool, suggesting
perhaps reduction of the fill by about three feet.
Commissioner Ellinger referred to the orientation of the tennis court.
`. Ken Schoppet, project landscape architect, noted that orienting the court more
North-South would infringe on the swimming pool.
Mr. Finn explained that his intention was to bring lots #1 and #2 back to what
existed at the turn of the century. One reason for the orientation of the pool was to
have it resemble a reflecting pond characteristic of houses of the period.
The Public Hearing was closed.
In response to a question from Commissioner Pahl, Mr. Finn noted he had no
problems with the Staff Recommended Conditions.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Pahl, seconded by Ellinger and
passed to approve the Site Development permit with Staff Recommended
Conditions 1 - 7, and with the following conditions:
8. As proposed in the plans dated April 12, 1991, pool shall be reduced to elevation
563' 6" and cabana to 564'8".
9. Applicant understands that approval of this application is specifically
disapproved as to any fence within the reference line and a design shall be
`� submitted for the review and approval of Staff showing the fence at or behind
i W the reference line.
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V 10. A landscape planting plan shall be submitted after framing and prior to final
building inspection for the review and approval of the Planning Commission
acting as the Site Development Authority.
AYES: Vice Chairman Noel and Commissioners Comiso, Ettinger, Pahl
NOES: Commissioner Carico
ABSENT: Chairman Jones and Commissioner Stutz
Commissioner Carico noted in reference to her 'no' vote that Staff tried to guide the
applicant to not have as massive a level of development on the property.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Ellinger, seconded by Comiso and
passed to reconsider the Conditions of Approval for Item 4.1, LANDS OF CHIANG.
AYES: Vice Chairman Noel and Commissioners Carico, Comiso, Ellinger
NOES: None
ABSENT: Chairman Jones and Commissioner Stutz
ABSTAIN: Commissioner Pahl
The Commission discussed Condition #7, requiring verification of setback lines and
Condition #6, requiring protection and replacement of trees.
Commissioner Carico noted she could not support deletion of Condition #7 because
if applicants don't have up to date information to put on a map, this is a
requirement they should fulfill.
Bill Ekern clarified that if the Commission is comfortable that the existing house
precludes this addition from going into the setback, then there is no need for the
condition.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Ellinger, seconded by Pahl and
passed to delete Condition #7 and approve the following Condition #6:
6. No trees are to be removed from the site, and if any are damaged beyond repair
or destroyed they shall be replaced in kind with trees of a size no less than 24"
box if larger, or equal to the size of the trees removed. Fencing at the dripline is
required during construction. No equipment or debris shall be stored beneath
the dripline.
AYES: Vice Chairman Noel and Commissioners Comiso, Ellinger, Pahl
NOES: Commissioner Carico
ABSENT: Chairman Jones and Commissioner Stutz
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4.5 An ordinance of the Town of Los Altos Hills amending definition of
setbacks to exclude eaves
Bill Ekern introduced this item, noting that because the setbacks are measured to the
eaves, people often remove them from the design of a structure. Most cities
measure the setback to the exterior building wall.
Commissioner Pahl noted concern that the ordinance is open ended, as
cantilevering of eaves could present problems. He noted eaves help create a
horizontal appearance, cast shadows, and break up the vertical nature of the house.
He noted the City of Los Altos allows the eaves to encroach four feet into the
setback.
The Commission discussed allowing eaves to encroach five feet into the setback.
In response to a question from Commissioner Comiso, Commissioner Pahl noted
that the City of Los Altos allows bay windows to encroach 18 inches into the setback
provided the window doesn't adhere to the eaves or foundation of the structure.
MOTIONS SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Pahl, seconded by Comiso and
passed by consensus to continue the Public Hearing to allow for further research
�W regarding bay windows.
4.6 An ordinance of the Town of Los Altos Hills amending Chapter 2 (Site
Development) of Title 10 (Zoning and Site Development) to clarify Site
Development review of residences
Bill Ekern introduced this item, noting that if a second unit is to be built, applicants
are required to obtain a Site Development permit. However, if there is an existing
structure, there is no mechanism to bring it in for Site Development review. The
proposed amendment also requires a variance for non -conforming structures.
The Public Hearing was opened. No one wishing to speak, the Public Hearing was
closed.
Commissioner Pahl noted that for approval of a variance, as proposed in the
ordinance amendment, it is necessary to show a unique situation exists. The
standards for a Conditional Development Permit are far less onerous than making
the findings for a variance and there is greater flexibility considering the needs of
the applicant and the Town.
The Commission discussed requirement of a Variance and requirement of a CDP
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MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by CariCo, seconded by Pahl and
passed to recommend approval of the ordinance amendment and to request
consideration of requirement of a CDP rather than a Variance.
AYES: Vice Chairman Noel and Commissioners Carico, Comiso, Ettinger, Pahl
NOES: None
ABSENT: Chairman Jones and Commissioner Stutz
Commissioner Carico wished to clarify that she did not intend to vote in favor of
the motion, specifically the requested consideration of requirement of a Conditional
Development Permit rather than a Variance.
5. NEW BUSINESS
5.1 Planning Commission Meeting Schedule
Bill Ekern explained that the City Council would not be holding meetings during
the month of August, noting the Council has been considering all Planning
Commission public hearings on their consent calendar.
` Commissioner Pahl suggested asking Council what course of action they preferred
the Commission take, possibly if a memo outlining what transpired was acceptable.
6. OLD BUSINESS
Bill Ekern noted that Staff preferred commissioners call prior to a meeting if they
have questions regarding reports from Staff or consultants to allow Staff an
opportunity to identify their logic. He noted the importance of a good working
relationship.
Commissioner Pahl noted the "runway" lights on Simon Lane were on again. Mr.
Ekern responded that he would write a letter to the property owner.
Commissioner Ellinger noted residents' entry lights on Matadero Creek Lane were
turned on. Staff indicated they would advise the residents of lighting ordinances.
7. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF MAY 8TH 1991
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Pahl, seconded by Carico, and
passed by consensus, with Commissioners Pahl and Ellinger abstaining, to approve
the minutes of May 8th, 1991.
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~ 8. REPORT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF MAY 15TH, 1991
Commissioner Comiso asked to give the report at the following Planning
Commission meeting.
Bill Ekern noted the City Council discussed the Yard Waste Recycling Center. He
also noted Council voted to hold a public hearing for the LANDS OF OWEN on
Manuella Road, approved at the Planning Commission meeting of May 8th, 1991.
He also noted the Planning Commission denial of the LANDS OF CHOO was a
appealed by the applicants for a City Council public hearing.
9. REPORT FROM THE SITE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING OF
MAY 14TH, 1991
Bill Ekern reported two items were reviewed and approved: Ng - Sport Court and
Landscaping. No additional plantings were required; however any perimeter
screening vegetation removed was required to be replaced. Nguyen - landscaping.
Eleven trees along Elena Road, the rebuilding of the pathway, and trees along the
noise berm were required.
10. ADTOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned by consensus at 10:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Laura Johnson
Planning Secretary