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Town of Los Altos Hills
PLANNING COMMISSION
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January 11, 1995, 7:00 p.m.
nbers, 26379 Fremont Road
ROLL CALL AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
APPROVED 1/25/95
The Planning Commission meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. in the Council
Chambers at Town Hall.
Present: Chairman Schreiner, Commissioners Cheng, Finn, McMahon, Gottlieb &
Stutz
Absent: Commissioner Doran
Staff: Linda Niles, Planning Director; Suzanne Davis, Planner; Sheryl Kolf,
Assistant Engineer; Lani Lonberger, Planning Secretary
The Commissioners welcomed their newest member, Steve Finn, to the Planning
Commission.
2. PRESENTATIONS FROM THE FLOOR
None.
3. CONSENT CALENDAR
3.1 LANDS OF HORTON, 26030 Altamont Road, APN 182-25-001 and 182-
25-008 Altamont Road (181 -94 -LLA); A request for a Lot Line
Adjustment. (This application will be continued to an undetermined
date and re -noticed once requested information has been submitted).
4. PUBLIC HEARINGS
4.1 LANDS OF NGUYEN, 11632 Rebecca Lane (82-94-ZP-SD); A request for
a Site Development Permit for a pool.
Chairman Schreiner asked if the applicants are notified regarding access to the
property as Cotton's report noted that they could not gain access to the property. In
4ftow discussing William Cotton's report, Commissioner Gottlieb requested Mr. Cotton
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specify the area of approval for the pool noting that it is in a Human Habitation
Setback asking that this be added to the conditions of approval.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Larry Serda, Anthony Pools, 905 Commercial Street, San Jose, discussed plans, sheets
1 (construction drawings) and 2 (showing detail previously requested); pool location
as shown on the Plot Plan; and decking around the pool. It was noted that there will
be stepping stones leading from the house to the pool.
Dr. Nguyen, applicant, replied to Commissioner Stutz' question noting the hardscape
was shown on the original addition plans and the hardscape for the pool equipment
was counted into the MDA.
Kati Stella, pathways committee, noted the request by the Pathways Committee to
upgrade the path to a Type IIB on Dawson Drive. This is #6 in the conditions of
approval.
CLOSED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
Ms. Niles commented that the corrected worksheet #2 was not received, however she
was satisfied that the applicant was within the MDA numbers.
Commissioner Stutz discussed condition #5 d, suggesting wording to the effect that
equipment shall be fenced with wood on all four sides and roofed for noise mitigation.
Dr. Nguyen noted that the pool equipment will be covered.
MOTION SECONDED, AMENDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Stutz,
seconded by Commissioner McMahon and amended to approve the Site Development
Permit for a pool with changes to #5 d "Equipment shall be fenced with wood on all
four sides and roofed for noise mitigation"; requesting an amendment to William
Cotton's letter specifying the area of approval for the pool is in a Human Habitation
Setback; and requiring a recorded deed restriction regarding the MFA/MDA figures,
if it was not included in the original application.
AYES: Chairman Schreiner, Commissioners Cheng, Finn, Stutz, McMahon &
Gottlieb
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Doran
This item will appear on the City Council consent calendar February 1, 1995
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4.2 LANDS OF WISE, 24301 Elise Court (187 -94 -SD -VAR); A request for a
Site Development Permit for grading, and a variance to allow grading
within 10 feet of the property line.
Ms. Niles noted there were several Commissioners (Finn, Cheng, Schreiner) who
could not gain access to the property due to a gate and a dog. She commented that the
Commission could hear the application, taking testimony and continue their decision
to the next meeting to allow them to visit the site, if they felt it was appropriate.
Commissioner Finn did not feel it would be necessary to continue the application.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Mike Wise, 24301 Elise Court, was asked why the Quarry put him in this position. Mr
Wise did not feel he had anything to say regarding what was done. Commissioner
Stutz noted that the County allows grading to the property line; the Town allows
grading up to 10 feet from the property line. Mr. Wise noted the MDA was 15,000
square feet and the MFA was 10,500 square feet with a 32% average slope on 3.62 net
acres. It was noted that even though the property is sub -dividable, it would not be
practical as they would end up to two lots with MDA's of 7,500 square feet and MFA's
of 5,000 square feet. They currently have floor area of approximately 5,500 square
feet, lot coverage of 9,000 square feet. If they did subdivide the property, they would
+`pr have to take out the rear deck, remove the driveway, replacing it with open pavers,
and the deck on the out -building would have to be removed as it is too close to the
property line. Also, they would never be able to build a pool in the future. Presently,
they do have enough MDA and MFA for a secondary dwelling, however access would
be a problem.
Chairman Schreiner noted that the City Council indicated that they would like the
original MDA/MFA figures maintained regardless of the grading. She felt if they did
build a secondary dwelling, that the height would be measured from the original
grade. Mr. Wise was concerned that if they did sell the property and someone in the
future would like to expand, the Commission would be forcing any development in
that area to occur on the area that has minimal grading which is closer to the road
leading down. This is right in the view corridor of Dr. Walker who is concerned with
the preservation of his view. Mr. Wise suggested a compromise in height limits. He
noted that the maximum fill would be approximately 15 feet which shows on the plan
cross section. Without having any plans, it was difficult for Mr. Wise to suggest a
height limit, possibly 20-21 feet.
Further discussion ensued regarding the property being subdividable may not be an
issue; a deed restriction being required due to the amount of fill (granting a variance);
and not giving this applicant any more than anyone else in Town. -
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Commissioner Stutz was not concerned with the leveling as Vidivich has put the
applicant in a difficult situation with the property looking very unnatural. She
discussed a secondary dwelling and the amount of fill, trying to make some type of
transition between the two properties to look natural. The property would be
improved with the grading. Any Planning Commission in the future would have a
legal right to deny an application for subdivision on the basis that perhaps the fill did
allow the applicant more land if the original contours were not kept. She suggested
adding a restriction so that the area to be filled could never be built on so the fill
would never contribute to increasing the MDA of MFA.
Ms. Niles suggested a discussion as they have not received any information to suggest
that this would not be the best place with or without the fill for construction. It may
be premature for this type of condition/restriction to be placed on a grading project.
Chairman Schreiner asked if the grading was going to be accomplished in such a way
that if the applicant in the future wanted to put a structure there, he could. Ms. Niles
responded that the fill would be compacted but not compacted for construction. It
may be appropriate to add this as a reminder condition that at such time as a structure
is planned in that area, there would need to be another soils report which is a
standard condition that is required of any structure.
Commissioner Gottlieb felt the applicant was not protected from the Vidivich grading.
She would normally like to see natural land, however in this case, she did not feel it
would change the looks of the area much. She would consider approval only if they
put a restriction on MDA and MFA and the percentage of slope would remain the
same (prior to fill); everything would be based on the original contours. She agreed
with the variance findings. Commissioner Stutz felt condition #5 covered what they
are trying to accomplish. Chairman Schreiner noted that the existing topography
already has some fill, suggesting "the original topography" wording. Ms. Niles noted
that it would depend if they felt this was necessary as the previous fill was only 1-2
feet.
Commissioner McMahon had been to the site and after viewing the situation she felt,
with all things considered, the existing fill was minor. She was 100% in support of the
project.
Commissioner Finn commented that he agreed with everyone in that the findings are
clear and the variance appropriate. Due to Vidivich, there will be high costs to Mr.
Wise to bring his property back to being reasonable. He did not feel this situation was
the making of the property owner. He would like to see a reasonable height limitation
where a reasonable building could still be built on top of the fill. He was willing to
vote on the project this evening. Commissioner Cheng agreed with Commissionei
Finn. Both Commissioners were comfortable voting on the project. ,�,
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Chairman Schreiner had no problem with the variance. This was one variance she
could support noting this was a very unique situation. She complimented Ms. Niles
for her complete analysis of Finding #1. She had no problem with the fill, requesting
the MDA and MFA figures to be maintained at the original figures. She did express
concern with the possible height of a structure on the fill.
Commissioner McMahon noted that the applicant will not be in a better situation due
to the grading. She further discussed compacting the fill which would be suitable for
a building and the difference between fill and engineered fill. Mr. Wise noted that he
needed to compact the fill for stability purposes, hoping to get some of the fill from
the Quarry and McCulloch properties to prevent bringing 500 trucks up Stonebrook
Drive.
Further discussion ensued regarding height limitation. Wording "at the point that it is
15 feet, restrict the height to 20 feet, going up as it moves back off the fill' was
suggested or a general statement noting that there may be a height limitation on a new
structure in the fill area. Another suggested wording for height limitations was
"dependent on the location and the design, the height may be restricted to less than 27
feet". Commissioner Stutz pointed out past problems on lots with height restrictions
placed on them. Granting a variance should not give the applicant more than he
started with. Condition 5 addresses MDA and MFA but not height. Mr. Wise
suggested wording "measured from the original topography but not restricted to less
than 20 feet". Ms. Kolf asked if they would be satisfied with wording to the affect that
"the home owner or potential home owner be aware that height would be reviewed,
looking at both the original topography and the new topography", not stating a height
limitation, only stating it would be reviewed. Commissioner Finn noted that the
applicant has suggested to have a height maximum of 20 feet at the 15 foot level,
going up as you go to less fill. Ms. Niles asked what is scale to go down by? The cross
over would be at seven feet from natural grade was suggested. This means fill of
seven feet or over, the height maximum would be 20 feet.
The Commission agreed with the variance findings. In discussing the conditions of
approval, it was noted that #5 would be changed to include recording of a deed
restriction and changing "existing" to 'original'. A condition shall be added stating "if
a structure is proposed, a new soils report for proper compaction and construction
will be required". It was noted that on a grading application, a pathway request is not
appropriate.
MOTION SECONDED, AMENDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Stutz,
seconded by Commissioner McMahon and amended to approve the Site Development
Permit and Variance as amended with changes to #5 to include recording of a deed
restriction and changing "existing' to "original", and adding a condition "if a structure
is proposed, a new soils report for proper compaction and construction will be
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AYES: Chairman Schreiner, Commissioners Stutz, McMahon, Gottlieb, Cheng
& Finn
NOES: None
This item will appear on the City Council consent calendar February 1, 1995.
4.3 LANDS OF HWONG,12813 Clausen Court (200 -94 -SD); A request for a
Site Development Permit for grading for lawn and play area (continued
from December 14,1994).
5. REPORT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF JANUARY 4, 1995
5.1 Chairman Schreiner reported the following items were discussed at the January
4th meeting: request for an extension of the expiration date of a Site
Development Permit for a new residence, pool and spa for the Lands of Viso;
condition amendments for the Lands of Belden, Corrigan and LeBeau; and the
Lands of Roley. Commissioner Stutz noted that she would have given a
variance for 4,700 square feet of development area if the Roleys had agreed to ]
it, however they would not barter. 1/
5.2 The Planning Commission Representative for January 18th will be
Commissioner Gottlieb.
6. NEW BUSINESS
The Planning Commission, City Attorney and Staff will hold a joint meeting February
8th at 5:00 p.m. prior to the regular Planning Commission meeting.
7. OLD BUSINESS
7.1 Discussion of the General Plan Open Space Element.
The Commission discussed the Open Space Element in length, giving staff changes
and direction to make the recommended changes and return with the revised Element
for review.
Scheduled work session meeting for the Land Use and Scenic Highways Elements for
January 19th at 5:30 p.m.
7.2 Color Board. j
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This will be continued to January 30, 1995 at 5:00 p.m. Mrs. Davis will provide a list of
homes to be viewed for color before the meeting with reflectivity values noted.
8. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
8.1 Approval of the December 14, 1994 Minutes.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED BY CONSENSUS: To approve the December
14,1994 minutes with Commissioners Cheng and Finn abstaining and Commissioner
Doran absent.
9. REPORT FROM THE SITE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETINGS OF
DECEMBER 20 AND 27,1994.
9.1 LANDS OF CHEW, 28380 Christopher's Lane; A request for a Site
Development Permit for landscape and related improvements
(continued from November 29,1994). Approved with conditions
December 20,1994.
9.2 LANDS OF NAUMANN, 27301 Black Mountain Road; A request for a
Site Development Permit for landscape and related improvements.
Approved with conditions December 27, 1994.
9.3 LANDS OF LIU, 28635 Matadero Creek Court; A request for a Site
Development Permit for landscape and related improvements.
Approved with conditions December 27, 1994.
10. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned by consensus at 9:53 p.m.
Res ctfully submitted,
Lani Lonberger
Planning Secretary
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