HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/08/1995APPROVED 2/22 /95
LMinutes of a Regular Meeting
Town of Los Altos Hills
PLANNING COMMISSION
Wednesday, February 8,1995,7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers, 26379 Fremont Road
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1. ROLL CALL AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Planning Commission meeting was called to order at 7:15 p.m. in the Council
Chambers at Town Hall.
Present: Chairman Schreiner, Commissioners Cheng, Doran, Finn, McMahon,
Gottlieb & Stutz
Staff: Linda Niles, Planning Director; Sheryl Kolf, Assistant Engineer; Susan
Manca, Planner; Lam Lonberger, Planning Secretary
2. PRESENTATIONS FROM THE FLOOR
None
3. CONSENT CALENDAR
None
4. PUBLIC HEARINGS
4.1 LANDS OF HWONG,12813 Clausen Court (200 -94 -SD); A request for a
Site Development Permit for grading for lawn and play area (continued
from January 25, 1995).
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Doran and seconded
by Commissioner Cheng to continue the application to the February 22nd meeting at
the request of the applicant.
AYES: Chairman Schreiner, Commissioners Cheng, Finn, Stutz, Doran, McMahon
& Gottlieb
NOES: None
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4.2 LANDS OF LANE, 10695 Magdalena Avenue (215-94-ZP-SD); A request
for a Site Development Permit for a minor addition/ remodel and a
driveway modification.
Staff had nothing further to add to the staff report. Commissioner Gottlieb discussed a
possible need for railings on the retaining wall. It was noted all UBC requirements are
checked by the building official during the plan check and checked again at the time of
inspections. Chairman Schreiner commented that the staff report did not include
existing development area figures. Ms. Niles noted that the worksheet was not
complete. The applicant is not exceeding the allowable figures for the lot. The staff
report indicates the request for a complete worksheet. Normally, this type of project is
approved administratively. Due to the new concerns with the driveway, it was
scheduled for public hearing. The Commissioners indicated that they had all visited the
site.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Roger Griffin, Paragon Design Group, applicant's representative, highlighted several
items: no redwood trees to be removed from the property; grading will be away from
the redwoods; retaining wall maximum height is 48 inches only in one area, going from
zero to three feet (one area four feet), then sloping back down to three feet, then to two
feet (mostly less than three feet); presented a rendering of the wall for review; suggested
planting material to hide the wall; discussed the wall material (secure, sound, and low
impact); eliminating the dual access onto Magdalena for safety; preserving the screen
planting; garage placement is in accordance with Design Guideline; future plans for
additional landscaping; undergrounding of the existing electrical which is currently
overhead; 1% to 2% driveway slope; and correction to the current drain inlet which is
presently higher than the entrance to the garage.
CLOSED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
Chairman Schreiner asked Ms. Niles if a variance was needed for this much pavement
into the setbacks. Ms. Niles responded no. There is an ordinance stating no grading
within 10 feet of property line and driveways are allowed in the setback. Ms. Niles felt
the pavement was necessary to maneuver into the garage. Commissioner Gottlieb felt
the driveway was impacting the neighbor; the present garage does not. She could not
vote for the project because it is increasing hardscape in the setback. The intent of
driveways in setbacks was to cross the setbacks, not to stay in it. Commissioner Stutz
felt the applicant had done a good job with the remodeling and the best possible design
with the garage by turning it around to the side. She did not feel the paving in the
setback would hurt anyone as there is a 30 foot easement running down along the side
of the property line. She felt this was an isolated lot; she would approve this
application. Commissioner McMahon discussed cut and fill, noting difficulty seeing
contours. She did not feel there was enough information regarding existing and new 4
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♦W contours to make an intelligent decision on this application. Commissioner Doran felt
the applicant made a bad situation better by closing the driveway onto Magdalena as
well as using the limited space available for additional floor area. She did not feel the
driveway would impact the neighbors because the neighbor's house is so far below
them. Commissioner Finn felt they did a nice job remodeling noting the Town
encourages positioning garage doors not to face the street which sometimes takes more
pavement into the setback. Commissioner Cheng felt the driveway was not bothering
the neighbors or they would have attended the meeting. It was noted that the
applicants did review other design options.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Cheng and seconded
by Commissioner Stutz to approve the Site Development Permit for a minor
addition/remodel and driveway modification, amending the conditions of approval to
add the standard tree condition (If any trees on the site six inches in diameter or larger
are damaged beyond repair or destroyed during construction they shall be replaced
with a tree equal in size, as determined by the Planning Director.); redwood trees shall
not be removed; and the shed shall be removed from the setback.
AYES: Commissioners Cheng, Finn, Stutz & Doran
NOES: Chairman Schreiner, Commissioners McMahon & Gottlieb
This item will appear on the City Council consent calendar March 1, 1995.
4.3 LANDS OF HONG, 26370 Ginny Lane (211-94-ZP-SD); A request for a
Site Development Permit for a new residence and secondary unit.
Chairman Schreiner noted that Mr. Hong had contacted her regarding hearing the
application although the story poles had not been in place as he was not aware that this
was a requirement. It was noted that all Commissioners had visited the site at which
time Chairman Schreiner and Commissioner Gottlieb had spoken to the applicants.
Commissioner Doran asked what were the Town standards regarding sound walls. Ms.
Niles responded stating the Town standards for fences or walls apply to any walls. The
Town also has the opportunity to grant a variance for the height of a wall when there
are findings of special unique circumstances due to size, shape, topography, location or
surroundjngs. The recommendations noted in the noise report were discussed. Ms.
Niles noted it has been the Town's experience in the past to try to find an alternative
solution to noise attenuation other than 15 foot high walls. The first option would be to
find something with a combination of walls, berms, re-siting the house, turning the
house, relocation of the outdoor living area or a combination that would eliminate the
need for a 15 foot wall all the way around three sides of this project.
Ms. Niles discussed the secondary unit noting that under the non -conforming section of
the code, unless the applicant is adding to or increasing a non -conformity, they are not
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required to make the existing non -conformity conform. In this case, the unit is already a
residential unit being used as the primary unit, located in the setback. Since the
applicant wants to construct a new primary unit and would like to retain the smaller
unit as a secondary unit. This does not change the use. The applicant is reducing the
size of the unit to meet the Town standard for a secondary unit. The reduction can be in
any area. Ms. Niles also noted that the applicant was notified some time ago regarding
the storage shed being illegally constructed in the setback and needed to be removed.
Since it has not been removed, the requirement is part of the conditions of approval.
The incompatibility of materials for the new residence and secondary unit was
discussed. The standards for secondary units require the two architectural styles be
compatible, appearing to be one single family residence complex with one driveway for
both. In this case, this is an existing structure. The applicant is not proposing to
upgrade but to comply with the square footage and construction of a secondary unit. It
was felt that it would be inappropriate to ask the applicant to change the architectural
style of the existing non -conforming structure. They could possibly ask the applicant to
paint the two structures the same color.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Dick Fang, architect for the applicant, discussed the entrance for the driveway,
presenting a rendering showing a reduction in the driveway paving from the 40 foot
setback area.
Discussion ensued regarding future plans for the outdoor living area (possibly a tennis
court or a pool); the landscape plan to be submitted at a later date; and the freeway
noise.
Mr. Stanley Hong, 26370 Ginny Lane, was asked what he would propose if he could
minimize the freeway noise in any way. Mr. Hong would like Cal Trans to build a 15
foot wall, however the Town has turned this down previously. He noted that the sound
study indicated that building a 14 foot high berm would only reduce the noise level by
4%. Why bother? He suggested planting more trees to block the view of the freeway.
He only spends two hours outside which is 5% of his time. The freeway is already there
and no one can change it. He asked why they were bothered with the noise when he
was not concerned. He will mitigate the noise from the interior. Mr. Hong asked if he
could keep the shed until after construction to use for storage.
CLOSED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
Discussion ensued regarding interior and exterior noise, non -conforming structure,
siting of the house, outdoor living area, and the shed to remain until after construction.
Commissioner Doran requested a redesign of the layout of the lot for noise mitigation as
there is ample room to place the house in another area on the lot. She would also like to
see a plan showing outdoor living areas which would impact the placement of the 1
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�W septic system and the placement of the driveway. She also discussed setting back the
second story so there is some architectural relief for the bulk and mass which can also
be worked into the plan.
Commissioner Finn did not feel they should ask someone to re-site their house for noise
mitigation if the noise is not an issue for the resident. The bulk and mass at the back of
the house does not bother him although the driveway should be minimized as shown
on the rendering provided by the architect. He did not believe it was their
responsibility to ask an applicant to submit a full plan including pool or tennis court.
This could be done with multiple applications.
Commissioner Cheng did not want to design the house. The siting of the house was
fine with her. She agreed that the shed could remain until after construction was
completed; she would like the secondary unit to be more compatible with the main
residence, at least in paint color; she preferred the new driveway design presented at
the meeting; and felt the landscape plan could come in at a later date. Commissioner
Cheng asked if they could connect to sewer, however it was noted that the project was
farther than 400 feet from a connection.
Commissioner Stutz was under the impression that the new septic system was already
in. It was noted that one system was in. She felt minimizing the driveway was very
important. She would like to see the present driveway going to the secondary unit
moved 10 feet from the property line along the front of the house and perhaps a wall
between a tennis court and house would be less obtrusive for noise mitigation.
Regarding noise mitigation, they can provide some area for outdoor use, not the entire
yard. Regarding the design of the house, she would like it better with eaves and off
setting of the second story.
Commissioner Gottlieb would like to see the house placed in such a way that the
secondary unit and the garage be served off the same driveway, not a Y off the
driveway. She did not like two driveways so close to the setbacks nor the gravel
driveway to the secondary driveway. She further discussed the design of a house,
suggesting turning the house, putting the two wings out which would possibly allow
room for a pool in the center with landscaping which would help mitigate some of the
sound and add to the outdoor area with reduced freeway noise. She would favor the
house sited more towards the front of the cul-de-sac with reduced driveways.
Commissioner McMahon was very pleased with the design of the house on this lot. She
did not feel there was a bulk and mass issue. She suggested lessening the driveway by
looking at the radius needed for negotiating the turns. She felt the cottage had a
significant architectural merit and should be capitalized on by fresh paint and general
maintenance to accentuate the character. She had no problem with the shed staying
until after construction.
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Chairman Schreiner noted a legal obligation to mitigate the noise for future owners.
Ms. Niles noted that the noise ordinance is limited. The applicant has indicated he has
no problem with the noise. She would like to ask the City attorney if there is an option
for the Town not to require a noise wall or if they need to require some type of noise
mitigation. Chairman Schreiner would like the applicant to work with staff regarding
noise (outdoor living area), reduction of excessive pavement, driveway in front of the
house, one driveway servicing the new residence and secondary unit, greater eaves,
and a redesign.
Commissioner Finn asked if they could build a berm within the setback area on the lot
which would require a variance as they would be grading within the setback area. The
grading could start at the property line as it appears it may go up 10 feet. It was noted
that the Commission would consider waiving fees for a variance request. It was
suggested keeping the gravel driveway to the cottage, moving the driveway 10 feet
from the property line a condition of approval. Chairman Schreiner asked if the
proposed driveway configuration was acceptable according to the Town's secondary
unit ordinances. Ms. Niles commented that the Commission would need to make an
interpretation of the ordinance regarding two entrances onto a property. Other
concerns included reducing the pavement and the paving, working with staff to
accomplish the reduction and looking at increasing the eaves
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Gottlieb and
seconded by Commissioner McMahon to continue the application to February 22, to
allow time for the placement of the story poles, and a redesign to include the following:
reduction of hardscape; the possibility of a common driveway and its interpretation;
need for outdoor living area (decibel range) (the Planning Director will discuss with the
City Attorney); a possible slight reduction in bulk; the gravel driveway moved 10 feet
from the property line; and making the cottage blend with the new structure.
AYES: Chairman Schreiner, Commissioners Doran, McMahon & Gottlieb
NOES: Commissioners Cheng, Finn & Stutz
New plans were requested to be submitted by February 13th showing more of a
reduction in the driveway than shown on the rendering provided at the meeting. The
Commission agreed to look at a berm; the possibility of a variance allowing grading
within 10 feet of the property line; and variance fees waived. A 14 foot wall on three
sides of the property was not acceptable. Mr. Hong noted that he was not in favor of
building berms along the south side of the property or along the freeway as this will
shrink his property. For clarification, Ms. Niles commented that the noise attenuation
may not be required. She will discuss this with the City Attorney. If the City Attorney
states that the Town does need to consider noise attenuation measures, there are many
alternatives that can be proposed. It was suggested in the staff report that the applicant
discuss with his noise consultant alternatives other than 15 foot walls on the property
line unless this is the only solution.
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Brief break at 9:05 p.m.
5. REPORT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF FEBRUARY 1, 1995
5.1 Commissioner Cheng reported the following items were discussed at the
February 1st meeting: concept of a farmers market; and a presentation by
PG&E regarding power outages during the last major storm.
5.2 The City Council meeting on February 15th was canceled. The Planning
Commission representative for March 1st will be Commissioner Doran.
6. NEW BUSINESS
None.
OLD BUSINESS
Future agendas will include "Report from subcommittees" under old business.
Commissioner McMahon discussed the Communications Subcommittee (other
suggested names were the Development Process Subcommittee or the Streamlining
` Permit Process subcommittee) (members McMahon, Cheng, Dauber, Casey). Chairman
Schreiner discussed the "Housing subcommittee (members Schreiner, Johnson, Dauber,
Stutz).
7.1 General Plan -scheduling of work sessions. The Land Use Element will be
discussed at a work session meeting February 15th at 5:30 p.m.
7.2 Lands of Vidovich informal presentation is scheduled for February 9th at
6:00 p.m. and site visit February 25th at 10:00 a.m. The Commission
discussed the scheduling of the Vidovich subdivision for public hearings
and scheduling of regular applications.
7.3 General Plan -Final discussion of Scenic Highways and Open Space
Elements.
Scenic Highways discussion ensued. Commissioner Stutz and Jean Struthers had met
and discussed additions to the element. It was suggested attaching their write-up to
the scenic highways element, forwarding it to the City Council for their direction.
Chairman Schreiner, Commissioners Doran and Gottlieb will review the Open Space
Element, bringing it back to the Planning Commission February 22nd and requesting
that it be placed on the City Council March 1st agenda.
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES J
8.1 Approval of the January 25, 1995 Minutes.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED BY CONSENSUS: Motion by Commissioner
McMahon, seconded by Commissioner Doran and passed by consensus to approved the
minutes of January 25,1995.
9. REPORT FROM THE SITE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING
None.
10. ADiOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned by consensus at 9:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Lanberger V
Planning Secretary