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Town of Los Altos Hills
PLANNING COMMISSION
Wednesday, April 10, 1996,7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers, 26379 Fremont Road
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The Planning Commission meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. in the Council
Chambers at Town Hall.
Present: Chairman McMahon, Commissioners Cheng, Doran, Gottlieb, Stutz,
Finn & Schreiner
Staff: Curtis Williams, Planning Director; Sheryl Proft, Assistant Engineer;
Suzanne Davis, Planner; Lani Lonberger, Planning Secretary
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3.1 LANDS OF BECKER,14271 Miranda Road (53-96-ZP-SD); A request
for a Site Development Permit for a major addition and remodel.
Staff had nothing further to add to the staff report. Discussion ensued regarding
the possibility of connecting to sewer although the Health Department has
approved the septic system. The Beckers would like to connect to sewer when it is
more cost effective. It was also noted that the pathway was installed two years ago
when the pool plan was approved and constructed. The existing pathway will be
maintained only.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
John Barton, 359 De Leon Avenue, Fremont, project architect, was available for
questions noting that the roofing material for the additions will match the existing
structure and the project includes an additional parking space which will not
impact the tree in that location.
CLOSED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
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MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Cheng and
seconded by Commissioner Schreiner to approve the Site Development Permit for
a major addition/remodel, Lands of Becker, with the recommended conditions of
approval.
AYES: Chairman McMahon, Commissioners Stutz, Gottlieb, Finn, Schreiner,
Cheng & Doran
NOES: None
This item will appear on the City Council consent calendar May 1, 1996.
3.2 LANDS OF SCORES, 26700 Palo Hills (44-96-ZP-SD); A request for a
Site Development Permit for a detached guest house.
Staff had nothing further to add to the report. Due to a previous application and a
question regarding the definition of a secondary dwelling unit, the Planning
Director spoke with the City Attorney indicating that the Planning Commission
does have some latitude in determining if the proposed structure is in fact a
secondary unit and/or should be reduced to a maximum 1,000 square feet. The
Town Municipal Code allows cooking facilities in secondary units, however not in
accessory buildings. A small addition was recently approved administratively.
The development and floor area figures shown in the staff report include the minor
addition figures.
Further discussion ensued regarding how the lot was created at .93 acres. The
Planning Director was asked how a disclosure statement (condition #10) is policed.
Chairman McMahon questioned the minor addition which was administratively
approved a week ago. Commissioner Stutz would have liked to have seen the
staking of the area for the minor addition. She was concerned with the lack of
eaves as she did not feel the guest house would be compatible in style with the
main structure with the removal of the eaves. For clarification, it was noted that the
Municipal Code allows an accessory building without kitchen facilities, and does
not require an additional parking space.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Tom Sloan, 255 N. Market Street, San Jose, project architect, described the project as
more of a pool house than a guest house. However, it will be used by the
applicant's older children during school breaks and summer to live in when they
are home from college. It will not be used as a rental. The bar area is only for
gathering. He felt the design was compatible with the main residence which will
maintain the ranch style design.
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Chairman McMahon felt the roof design was quite contemporary, unique and
distinguished. However, the design does not match the house. She asked for an
explanation regarding the incompatibility. Mr. Sloan felt the design was almost a
characterization of the whole facade.
Commissioner Gottlieb commented that the roof design of the new structure will be
obstructing the applicant's view of the hillside. Commissioner Schreiner noted that
the wet bar area has a sink, refrigerator and a nook. All it needs is a microwave to
have a kitchen type facility. Mr. Sloan noted that they are not planning to make
that area into a kitchen. They can certainly barbecue food and bring it inside to eat.
CLOSED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
Commissioner Doran commented on a previous accessory building application and
this project looks like a secondary unit. She suggested restricting the size of the
structure to 1,000 square feet, altering the roof line and eaves to match that of the
house, and eliminate the plumbing, nooks, and the wet bar so it is really an
accessory building. The accessory structure should match the main residence.
Commissioner Finn commented that many garages, barns and pool houses have
bathrooms; many pool houses have changing rooms and a bar or at least a sink.
The Planning Director clarified that a guest house does not necessarily have to meet
the definition of a secondary dwelling unit (maximum 1,000 square feet and one
additional parking space) although it does provide similar functions. He suggested
deleting the wet bar and nook so the "kitchen" is eliminated.
Commissioner Stutz noted that a pool house of approximately 600 square feet
probably would be acceptable with the design to include eaves, one large room, a
bathroom, a very small wet bar/kitchen area, with the roof design compatible with
the main residence.. She could not support anything larger as she did not feel
Town code allows living facilities in accessory buildings. This lot does not meet
secondary dwelling unit requirements. Commissioners Gottlieb and Schreiner
agreed. Commissioner Cheng felt there was something wrong with the secondary
dwelling unit ordinance as written. Chairman McMahon felt the roof design was
not compatible with the main residence.
M011ON SECONDED AND FAILED: Motion by Commissioner Doran and
seconded by Commissioner Finn to approved the Site Development Permit for a
detached guest house, Lands of Scifres, with the following changes: eliminate
square footage over 1,000 square feet; eliminate the wet bar and nook area; and
bring the roof line in compliance with the main house.
AYES: Commissioners Cheng, Finn & Doran
` NOES: Chairman McMahon, Commissioners Stutz, Schreiner & Gottlieb
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Discussion ensued. The Commission asked the applicant if they would consider a
reduction in floor area. Mrs. Scifres would not care to reduce the square footage to
600 square feet. She has a large family and would like to maintain two bedrooms, a
bathroom, a conversation room and the wet bar. Commissioner Schreiner noted
that the reduction in square footage for the accessory building does not mean that
they cannot add on to the main residence with an attachment or a second story.
Mrs. Scifres preferred having the two bedrooms in a separate unit to give the
parents privacy. Further discussion ensued regarding a motion for continuance of
the project versus a denial motion. The applicant stated that they would prefer a
motion to deny the application so they would have the option to appeal the
decision to the City Council.
MOTION SECONDED, AMENDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner
Gottlieb, seconded by Commissioner Schreiner and amended to deny the Site
Development Permit for a detached guest house, Lands of Scifres.
AYES: Chairman McMahon, Commissioners Stutz, Schreiner & Gottlieb
NOES: Commissioners Cheng, Finn & Doran
To appeal the decision of the Planning Commission, it must be made in writing no
later than May 1, 1996.
3.3 LANDS OF SHIDELER (JONES), 27994 Via Ventana Way (13-96-ZP-
SD-GD); A request for a Site Development Permit for a new
residence.
Chairman McMahon stepped down from the public hearing as she is a neighbor but
not within 500 feet. Vice -Chair Doran noted additional correspondence from the
neighbors and letter from the real estate broker, Beate Dayem. Vice -Chair Doran
apologized to Chairman McMahon for the contents of the letter from the real estate
broker as she felt it was inappropriate. Commissioner Schreiner asked who was
noticed regarding the project and the median cut as it affects more people than just
the close neighbors. Ms. Davis responded that neighbors within 500 feet were
noticed in addition to any residents who voiced interest in the application.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Jay Shideler, 250 Silvia Court, Los Altos, applicant, gave a presentation on new
information regarding the proposed driveway, the fire department requirements,
the restrictions on the lot, the removal of the proposed center oak tree in the
median, possible turning movements, and maneuvering through the median. He
discussed the Arborist, Barrie Coate, recommendations regarding the road and
retaining wall construction as it relates to the health of the affected trees. He went
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on to discuss the proposed road design versus the southern easement road
approach which would be through the conservation easement. Also, meeting the
fire department requirements.
Barrie Coate, arborist, Los Gatos, commented on a letter from Mr. McClenahan,
arboriculturists. He noted that parts of the tree in question were still alive, however
there will not be normal branches, limbs, etc. produced by the tree.
Mr. Shideler continued with his presentation discussing geoblock, and
demonstrating on a diagram that a large car approaching and driving through the
median should not be a safety issue.
Tom McNair, 460 Willis Lane, Mountain View, project architect, discussed the
design process, goal to retain as may trees as possible, maintaining the character of
the site., and to minimize the impact of the building. He went through the
"Guidelines for Residential Design and Land Use" goals as applied to their project.
He commented on the following: the existing trees screening the bulk of the house;
the natural environment maintained; minimizing the cut of the driveway wherever
possible; the placement of house to minimize the impact to the trees; very little
views of the house from off-site; the building has been cut into the hill to minimize
the bulk of the building; and the use of organic materials in the design which are
compatible with the environment. The house was not stepped down due to the
�r number of existing trees. Minimizing the footprint, going up, using more of a two
story structure, they can maintain the environment and use the existing trees to
screen the project. He further discussed retaining the visual openness by increasing
the setback from Via Ventana Way noting the building has been pulled well into
the site. The design does follow the existing contours with a linear design
following the length of the contours and the building does not obstruct any views.
He continued noting that the front elevation has some stepped portions (one story
portico, bay windows, cantilevered second floor which will create shadow lines).
The garage will not be seen from the street and they are using dark, natural colors
to blend with the surroundings. He felt the applicants have worked very hard to
preserve the natural environment. He further discussed the staff report, noting
objection to the reference to "the somewhat bulky appearance with a two story
facade above a six foot high terrace wall on the front elevation." The suggestion for
the second story to be set back at least six feet behind the first story facade would
result in a redesign which would require increasing the footprint of the building
which would increase the number of trees to be removed which would result in
destroying the environment even further. In conclusion, he requested approval of
the project as submitted.
Commissioner Finn commented on the applicant's suggestion that one of the
reasons for the proposed driveway design was due to a PG&E power box in the
L way. He asked if it could be moved. Mr. McNair responded, this was certainly one
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of the reasons for the driveway design along with the required turning radius for
the fire department apparatus.
Robin Knutson, 27999 Via Ventana Way, voiced the following concerns: the
previous 14 foot cut is now a 20 foot cut through the median, impact on the soil; the
impact on the two remaining trees having paving on all four sides; the proposed
geoblock installation and the root structure of the trees; safety issues with daily
speeding drivers coming down Via Ventana Way (suggested an official traffic
study); cars staying on the road not on the pathway; school bus travel; moving the
power box; a cut through the conservation easement; and the negative impact on a
large oak tree at 27990 Via Ventana Way located by the proposed driveway.
Viole McMahon, 27975 Via Ventana Way, presented exhibits on the proposed
driveway and median cut proposing an alternate route preserving the median. She
noted that the fire department has no preference to driveway access although she
would prefer following the contours and avoiding the need for retaining walls.
Further exhibits and comments included the following: diagram of the median area;
the age of the oak trees; canopy of the trees extending farther than previously
indicated; 31 neighbors signed a petition opposing the median cut versus four
neighbors in support; and the disruption created by geoblock. She felt the alternate
route through the conservation easement was less damaging and preferred by the
L neighbors. She asked that the median be preserved and safety maintained
Jeanine Knutson, 27999 Via Ventana Way, read a portion of the CC&Rs of the
original subdivision. She voiced opposition to the project.
Kathleen Kells, 27990 Via Ventana Way, adjacent neighbor, noted that a fair portion
of the driveway was on her property (in access easement). Her concerns included
drainage, traffic safety, and the impact of the driveway to her property.
Bud Babbit, 27911 Via Ventana Way, felt it was unfortunate there was a
disagreement between neighbors on an item which was decided three years ago.
He had reviewed all the records at Town Hall. He felt the Shidelers should be
supported as they were at least trying to save as many trees as possible. He did not
believe in granting a variance to go through the conservation easement.
Jim Wood, 27888 Via Ventana Way, neighbor, discussed the arborist report
(preferred to accept the arborist report rather than people who are not experts), the
Jones property access, and the new buyers willing to care for the property. He
supported the applicants.
Bill Groechel, 27985 Via Ventana Way, neighbor, commented on the traffic safety
issues on Page Mill. He did not support the project noting that the median cut was
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not settled in 1993 but postponed until an application was submitted. He preferred
the upper driveway access.
Katy Stella, 27975 Via Ventana Way, noted that over the last several months the
neighbors have collected a fund to care for the trees in the median.
Victoria Gilbert, 27990 Via Ventana Way, neighbor, noting flooding in her house
over the past two years. She was not opposed to the site being developed,
however she opposed the proposed driveway.
Guy Jinkerson, Environmental Design Committee, preferred the upper access. The
Committee felt there should not be a cut through the median for just one resident
when there is an alternative driveway access. He also noted that if the middle oak
tree does die, it could be replaced. He felt the median should be preserved since
there is another access and from a safety standpoint.
Tom McNair, project architect, further discussed the alternate upper driveway
access noting that even though it is following the contours, there is still a
differential of over five feet between the high point and low point over a slope of 14
feet. It will still require a retaining wall which will be in the conservation easement
with a fill situation on the down hill side.
Jay Shideler, clarified the following: the installation and material of the geoblock;
the cutting of a few oak tree branches for fire truck clearance; road safety issues
(school bus does not stop in that area); and the road not changing the grade. Mr.
Shideler also apologized for the letter from his Realtor. Commissioner Cheng asked
if he had any objection to coming onto the property by the upper access. Mr.
Shideler preferred the access as proposed.
Adolf Kratz, 27789 Via Ventana Way, objected to what is essentially adding another
road for one property owner. Water flow from the driveway should also be
considered. He disagreed with the comments regarding the upper access driveway
still needing retaining walls.
Bill Groechel, 27985 Via Ventana, discussed problems with drainage and the septic
system in that area.
CLOSED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
The Planning Director clarified a few points. The geoblock material will be under
two oak trees and with the traffic crossing the road, you will not see grass in that
area. He also noted that the issue of the median cut has not been decided. It was
decided at one time in the 1980s with the approval of the subdivision but no action
was taken. Now it is open to discussion and a decision. Mr. Williams went on to
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note that the fire department has looked at both access designs and they are
comfortable that both accesses would work. The fire department does not have a
preference. The alternative design from the top of the property through the
conservation easement could be done with a gentler tum/curve although staff has
not seen any of the engineering details that would clearly require cut and fill with
perhaps small walls associated with that alignment. The length and amount of
pavement will be similar with either access. Regarding conservation easements in
general, he noted that the way conservation easements are written, it allows the
Council to make an exception to the easement, finding that the proposed
construction would not conflict with the intent or purposes of that easement. He
read from the conservation easement document. Findings would need to be made
very clear as they would be setting a precedence. Drainage with either access
would be similar.
Commissioner Stutz asked for clarification regarding the fire department
requirement for a 14 foot wide road asking why the fire department did not require
turnouts. This was answered by the Planning Director. Commissioner Gottlieb
asked if a traffic study was every requested at the time of the subdivision. Ms.
Proft responded she had not found that any specific traffic study was done at the
time of the subdivision although this is a standard item to be review by the City
Engineer.
Brief break at 9:45 p.m
Commissioner Finn commented that he would prefer the upper driveway access.
The house was bulky and gorgeous but because of the vegetation the house would
not be seen.
Commissioner Gottlieb preferred the upper access also due to safety issue on Via
Ventana Way with a minimum of cut and less loss of trees. She felt the house was
bulky, not designed on contours. She did not like the six foot porch around the
house, not fitting into the environment. She would prefer a redesign with the
elimination of the six foot wall for the porch and stepping the house to comply with
the Design Guidelines. She would also prefer the see the garage placed towards
Via Ventana Way.
Commissioner Stutz agreed with changing the driveway to the upper level. She
also agreed that the house is bulky. She felt the house would be visible after built.
She also noted the nice visual approach to Via Ventana Way which she would
prefer maintained.
Commissioner Cheng would prefer to preserve the median and use the upper
access. The house is bulky and has in some areas a two and a half story facade.
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Commissioner Schreiner agreed with all comments. There is a safety issue and she
would prefer the upper access with strong findings to preclude other similar
encroachments into a conservation easement. She felt the house design does not
follow the Design Guidelines as shown on page 14. She felt the house has a three
story element. She would like to see some modification to the house.
Vice -Chair Doran agreed that there was a way to change the front story of the
house to have it sit better into the hillside and not reflect almost a three story
facade. She also agreed with the upper driveway access.
The applicant was asked if they preferred a continuance for a redesign addressing
the driveway design and the three story facade issues or would they rather have the
Commission take their vote to deny the project before them so the applicant would
have an opportunity to appeal the decision to the City Council. The applicant
noted that they would prefer the Commission proceed with their vote on the
application as submitted.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Gottlieb and
seconded by Commissioner Stutz to deny the request for a Site Development
Permit for a new residence and detached garage, and a variance to allow driveway
( improvements and grading within 10 feet of a property line.
AYES: Vice -Chair Doran, Commissioners Finn, Schreiner, Cheng, Stutz &
Gottlieb
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Chairman McMahon
To appeal the decision of the Planning Commission, it must be made in writing no
later than May 1, 1996.
4. REPORT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
4.1 Planning Commission Representative for April 3 -meeting canceled.
4.2 Planning Commission Representative for the April 17th meeting -
Commissioner Gottlieb.
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5.1 Report from subcommittees. Commissioner Doran reported the on
Non -Conforming Issues Subcommittee and their discussion regarding grading.
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4 6. NEW BUSINESS
Commissioner Doran noted that she had received several comments from people in
the community regarding comments made by Guy Jinkerson representing the
Environmental Design Committee noting the extensive comments regarding
applicants home designs. The applicants realize that the Environmental Design
Committee plays a significant part in the environment surrounding the land.
However, many people felt statements regarding objections to the house design
itself were inappropriate. It is the Planning Commission who makes the decision
regarding the design of a house. It was felt the Environmental Design Committee
should deal with outside issues, leaving the house design to the Planning
Commission.
Commissioner Stutz preferred hearing from as many people as possible regarding
an application (Environmental Design Committee, the Pathway Committee, etc.).
She would also like input from the Environmental Design Committee regarding
lighting plans.
It was suggested that if a committee member wishes to make comments on a
personal level, they should do so as a resident, not as a committee member.
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7.1 Approval of the March 27,1996 minutes.
PASSED BY CONSENSUS: To approve the March 27,1996 minutes with a small
correction to page 2 "Commissioner Schreiner asked if they could turn the garage
because the garage doors are visible to their neighbors".
8. REPORT FROM THE SITE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING
None.
9. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned by consensus at 10:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Lani Lonberger
Planning Secretary
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