HomeMy WebLinkAbout07/02/1996Minutes of a Special Meeting Approved 7/24/96
Town of Los Altos Hills
PLANNING COMMISSION
Tuesday, July 2,1996,7:00 p.m. ON PROJECT SITE
Council Chambers, 26379 Fremont Road
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ROLL CALL
The Planning Commission meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. on the project site.
Present: Commissioners Gottlieb, Doran, Cheng, Stutz, Jinkerson & Schreiner
Absent: Commissioner Finn
Staff. Curtis Williams, Planning Director; Jeff Peterson, City Manager; Sheryl
Proft, Assistant Engineer; Suzanne Davis, Planner
2. PUBLIC HEARING
2.1 LANDS OF ROGEZ (FORMERLY Lands of Han), 13901 W. Edith (also
known as 25561 W. Fremont Road) #135 -95 -TM; a proposed three lot
subdivision of 4.5 acres, cancellation of the Williamson Act Contract, and
proposed Negative Declaration.
The Commission reviewed and had informal discussions on various aspects of the
proposed subdivision, including building sites, access to the three lots, drainage and flood
control, tree preservation and removal of existing improvements.
In addition to the Commissioners and Town staff, the following people were present at the
on-site meeting: Scott Wilson, SCVWD; Didier & Isabelle Rogez (property owners and
applicants); Abby Ahrens, applicants' representative; Bill Kull, project engineer; and Von
Haws, building designer. Neighbors included: Jean & Dave Struthers; Richard Moll;
Bernice Moos; Mr. & Mrs. John Lopez; Mr. & Mrs. Duming; Jean Gurney; and Vince
Vargas.
ADJOURNMENT (oroiect site)
The Planning Commission meeting reconvened at 8:19 p.m. in Council Chamber.
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4/ 1. ROLL CALL AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Present: Commissioners Gottlieb, Doran, Cheng, Stutz, Jinkerson & Schreiner
Absent: Commissioner Finn
Staff: Curtis Williams, Planning Director; Jeff Peterson, City Manager; Sheryl
Proft, Assistant Engineer; Suzanne Davis, Planner; Roberta Wolfe, Acting
Planning Secretary
2. REORGANIZATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Gottlieb and seconded
by Commissioner Cheng to nominate Commissioner Doran as Chairman.
AYES: Commissioners Gottlieb, Cheng, Stutz, Jinkerson & Schreiner.
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Finn
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Schreiner and
seconded by Commissioner Jinkerson to nominate Commissioner Gottlieb as Vice -
Chairman.
AYES: Chairman Doran, Commissioners, Cheng, Stutz, Jinkerson & Schreiner.
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Finn
3. PUBLIC HEARING
LANDS OF ROGEZ (formerly Lands of Hau), 13901 W. Edith (also known as 25561 W.
Fremont Road) #135 -95 -TM; a proposed three lot subdivision of 4.5 acres, cancellation of
the Williamson Act Contract, and proposed Negative Declaration (continued).
Chairman Doran said she wanted to get some of the issues brought up at the site into the
record.
Mr. Williams said there had been some confusion regarding the building sites as shown on
the map. The 160 foot building circle is a code requirement. The actual building may or
may not fit into the circle. The second page of the plans show buildings on each lot. He
clarified that those are conceptual only and only indicate how a configuration might be
feasible. Approval of the subdivision does not approve this plan.
Bill Kull, Giuliani and Kull, Inc., 20431 Stevens Creek Blvd., Cupertino, civil engineer
1 representing the applicant, referred to the conditions of approval for the tentative map. He
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asked that Condition 12 be modified as the property is only on the west side of the creek
and wanted to clarify that the applicants were only granting an easement over their
property. In addition, he asked that reference to the 100 year flood be deleted.
Mr. Peterson said that the intent of Condition 19 is that the applicant constructs storm
drainage improvements for the localized site which may not be necessary for the
subdivision.
Mr. Kull asked that the words "if necessary" be added to the first line of Condition 19 after
the words "drainage improvements." In regard to Condition 23, Mr. Kull said the
applicant would like a reimbursement agreement for other properties that may be
connecting to the line within the next ten years. Referring to Condition 27, he said the
applicant would like the option of bonding for improvements. He also stated that
Conditions 34 and 35 are the same.
Mr. Peterson said that normally the applicant has the choice of (1) completing
improvements prior to the final map being recorded, or (2) bonding for improvements so
they can record the final map, then sell lots to fund improvements. This request is for a
bond to allow site development. He said the difficulty is that the Town needs leverage to
push subdivision improvements through. Recently the Town has had to call in bonds.
Mr. Williams said the most recent modified language requires that improvements would
have to be completed prior to issuance of building permits.
Mr. Peterson said that way, the construction and subdivision improvements are done
before the house is built.
Mr. Kull said he would still like the words in the condition
In regard to a reimbursement agreement for the sewer line, Mr. Peterson said the intent of
the Municipal Code is clear that a reimbursement agreement is for expansion of service,
and we are putting in an 8 inches line instead of 6 inches. This would serve up to 200
homes. The agreement is only for the material difference so he thought it might be a
nominal amount. He said they would look at it and see if it would be worth it; the
applicant pays attorney fees to draw up the agreement.
Mr. Kull answered questions regarding the scale of the houses shown on page 2 of the
plan. He said the houses shown are about 6,000 square feet, and are not representative of
the full floor area allowed.
Discussion followed regarding access. Mr. Kull said there were not traffic studies, but
calculations were done based on site distances and speeds.
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Abigail Ahrens, 200 University Avenue, Los Altos, presented a brief history of the
property and said it has taken this long for a property owner to come up with a plan to deal
with flood control and erosion. She said this proposal has an enormous tax advantage.
Taxes are now $400 a year as a result of the Williamson Act contract, and it is obvious
that the land is not being used for agricultural purposes. She expressed gratitude to staff
and said the proposal brings a win to property owners and brings Los Altos a solution for
drainage. In addition, it will provide sewers to this end of town. She said one thing the
Town can do is to let the applicant go ahead with house designs. She asked that the Town
allow the Rogez's to submit plans for review and issue building permits, but not issue any
occupancy permits until all conditions are met.
Jean Gurnee, 5 Cypress Court, said she was concerned about the eucalyptus trees. The
retaining wall is down and some of the trees are 150 feet tall. If they come down her
house would be destroyed. Her attorney has written to Dr. Hau (previous property owner)
and the Water District requesting they remove five trees.
Scott Wilson, Santa Clara Valley Water District (SCV WD), said that when the easement is
granted, what is within the easement becomes their liability. An arborist would look at the
trees and determine if they are dangerous and take them down if necessary. As part of that
process, Mrs. Gurnee's concern would be addressed.
�w Vince Vargas, 7 Cypress Court, Los Altos, said his back boundary is Adobe Creek. He
expressed concerns about the creek and what is proposed by SCV WD. One concern is that
it be as natural as possible. He said he understood that Reach 5 is scheduled for the year
2000, but a lot can happen in four years. He said they have gone through a couple of
floods in that area and he requested that Los Altos Hills and Los Altos join with neighbors
on both sides of the creek to propose to the board of the Water District that the priority be
moved up on Reach 5. He asked how heritage trees will be protected and said he would
like the redwoods and oaks to be protected during construction.
Chairman Doran informed him that the Town requires a fence over the drip lines of trees
of a certain size, especially oaks.
Mr. Vargas described what had happened to his property in 1983 and the temporary
measures taken by the Water District at that time which he felt have preserved what
remains of the creek.
Rudolf Moos, 25661 W. Fremont, said he lives just downstream of the creek. He wanted
his concerns regarding what happens downstream to be in the record so they are
considered as the plan goes forward. He said his concern is what happens to the height
and velocity of water flow as the changes in the creek water flow occur. These concems
have been raised with the Water District but he thought it was important and that a study
should be done by the Water District
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Mr. Wilson said a permit would be required to put in the new storm drain, and they would
make sure it was not making conditions worse.
Mr. Peterson explained what SCV WD is proposing as far as channel improvements and
talked about timing. He said capital improvements can occur with or without Water
District improvements.
Commissioners asked if there were ways to move up the timetable for Water District
improvements. Mr. Peterson said the EIR will be open to public review this fall. In
addition, the Northwest Zone of the Flood Control Advisory Committee provides input
and they could talk to individuals on that committee as well as members of the Water
District Board. In response to a concern about drainage, he said that every time a house
and driveway are built it incrementally adds a little more water to the creek.
Discussion followed concerning possible flooding. Mr. Peterson pointed out that the
proposed 100 year flood channel will be able to carry the 100 year storm. He said the
finished floor of the houses must be built above the flood plain.
Mr. Wilson said there is a benefit assessment on everyone's tax bill and the money goes
( into a pool to construct flood control improvements. When asked about a guarantee that
funds will be available in 1999 or 2000, he said that part of the planning is looking at the
flow of funds to make sure the funding fits with what they are planning. He described the
process of approval for a project. Regarding commitment of funds, he said that in the past,
when projects had been approved, they had been constructed. He described the scope of
the proposed project and said the District had obtained an easement on the Los Altos side
of the creek when that subdivision was constructed. He explained that this alternative is
the culmination of a long process that began when the District presented 15 alternatives to
the neighborhood group. The core of this alternative is the easement across this property.
They would replace the existing flume and it does not bring additional drainage to the
creek. He said the District's concern is that they get water to the creek in a way that does
not damage the creek.
Mr. Peterson said the applicants can demolish the existing structures. Before the final map
can be recorded any zoning problems must be eliminated. He said the improvements to
the channel would need to stand alone. Houses would need to be designed to the elevation
required by the Water District.
Mr. Williams said that it would be a condition that existing improvements that cross
property lines be removed before new homes are built.
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In regard to keeping the tennis court, Mr. Williams said that depends on how the condition
is crafted, but the most generous would be that they could keep it until occupancy is
granted.
Rich Moll, 1 Cypress Court, Los Altos, said he is an officer for the neighborhood
association. He said they have a pool and had a 25 foot section of the wall collapse. The
Water District came in to make the repair. He said he was here to say thanks for
permitting the Water District to take the property and to encourage the Water District to
move the project ahead. He said letters had been sent to the Town.
John Lopez, 25541 Fremont Road, expressed concern about past flooding on his property.
He is mainly interested in the capital improvement project and improving drainage in the
area.
Mr. Peterson said since the Town has planned mediation in August, he could not answer
that question at this time.
Jean Struthers, 13690 Robleda Road, said there have been two bad floods in the area and
she felt the worst decision she ever made as a Planning Commissioner was to allow a
house to be built on top of the creek. Debris, etc. causes water to build up. She was glad
this project was happening.
Chairman Doran closed the public hearing and said the Commission has three
considerations: (1) review of the negative declaration. (2) the Williamson Act contract
cancellation; and (3) the tentative map.
In answer to a question from Commissioner Gottlieb, Mr. Williams said the conservation
easement is a condition of approval so it is appropriate to add it to mitigation measures.
Further, referring to the Environmental Checklist, he said item f on page 7 was addressed
on page 13 under Discussion of Environmental Evaluation.
In regard to questions about the section in the new housing element on vacant land in the
town that is still available, Mr. Williams said this property is included under the B
category, which means it is suitable for development. He said that table is very rough and
the sole purpose was aggregating maximum potential buildout. It was not intended to be
site specific.
Williamson Act
Commissioner Gottlieb asked whether the town would receive any of the money from the
cancellation fee. Ms. Davis said she would contact the assessor to find out who gets the
money from the cancellation fee.
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Mr. Williams informed the Commission that Finding 5 was directed toward large pieces of
farm land and was not relevant in this case.
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A lengthy discussion concerning the conservation easement ensued, including the
following:
• The extent of the easement
• Improvements proposed by the Water District
• Whether a pool or other improvements could encroach into the easement
• Activities the Commission would like to see within the 100 year flood control bench
• The three -stage channel
• The reason for the bench
• Type of plants allowed
• Whether fences would be allowed within the SCV WD easement
• Type of development to be allowed in the easement
• Application to lots 2 and 3
• Width of improvements
( Mr. Peterson said that one of the reasons these designs get this wide is that the wider the
design the slower the water moves. He clarified that this property is benefiting
downstream property owners by spreading the water out.
Mr. Wilson said if the Water District does not get the easement, there is no project.
Discussion followed regarding the following:
• Working with the Water District on where building is allowed and what type of
development can occur within their easement
•
Whether to deduct the conservation easement from slope density calculations to limit
Lot Unit Factor
•
Design of entrance
•
Whether floor and development area figures are too high for the lots
•
Whether greater setbacks should be required
•
Whether height limitations should be imposed
•
Informing buyers of restrictions
•
Adjusting lot lines to equalize lots 2 and 3
•
Looking at development restrictions for lot 3 as it is entrance to the Town
•
Pathway along Adobe Creek
•
Protection of trees (redwood and oaks) and retention of as much vegetation as possible
•
Need for traffic study
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• Time line for when improvements are scheduled to start and finish outside this
property
Mr. Peterson stated that final improvements are supposed to be substantially in
conformance with the tentative map. The Commission should set accesses, especially for
Lot 3.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Jinkerson and
seconded by Commissioner Cheng to continue this matter until July 10. Staff will provide
information on the following as requested by the Commission:
• Revised wording for condition #12
• Wording for a disclosure statement for MDA and MFA
• Exhibit showing line 25 feet from top of bank of bench versus SCV WD easement line
• Slope density calculations removing the area within the conservation easement to the
line 25 feet from top of bank of middle bench
• Projected time line for capital improvement project, SCVWD and subdivision
improvements
• Whether paths can be constructed along the property frontages within the rights-of-
way and 10 foot pathway easement
AYES: Chairman Doran, Commissioners Stutz, Schreiner, Cheng, Jinkerson &
Gottlieb
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Finn
4. OLD BUSINESS
4.1 Review policy for secondary dwelling units and accessory structures
(continued).
Mr. Williams provided background and outlined the policy developed by staff.
Commission members discussed Item 3 which referred to puking spaces, rental, and
location on a lot less than an acre in size. It was agreed that Item 4 should be modified to
delete reference to an attached structure.
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4 MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Schreiner and
seconded by Commissioner Stutz to approve the recommended policy amended to delete
Item 3, renumber Item 4 as Item 3, and the new Item 3 to read, "The size of a "secondary
dwelling" shall include all portions of any structure, but does not apply to a main
residence."
AYES: Chairman Doran, Commissioners Stutz, Schreiner, Cheng, Jinkerson &
Gottlieb
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Finn
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 11:00 p.m.
Roberta Wolfe
Acting Planning Secretary
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