HomeMy WebLinkAbout07/24/19964 Minutes of a Regular Meeting Approved 8/28/96
Town of Los Altos Hills
PLANNING COMMISSION
Wednesday, July 24, 1996, 7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers, 26379 Fremont Road
cc: Cassettes #(15-96)
ROLL CALL AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Planning Commission meeting was called to order at 7:02 p.m. in the Council
Chambers at Town Hall.
Present: Chairman Doran, Commissioners Gottlieb, Jinkerson, Finn, Cheng, Stutz
& Schreiner
Absent: None
Staff: Curtis Williams, Planning Director; Sheryl Proft, Assistant Engineer;
c Susan Manca, Planner; Lani Lonberger, Planning Secretary
2. PRESENTATIONS FROM THE FLOOR -None.
3. PUBLIC HEARINGS
3.1 LANDS OF SPECTOR, 27271 and 27283 Ursula Lane (102 -96 -LLA); A
request for a Lot Line Adjustment.
The Planning Director introduced this item. A letter from Dr. Fee (27299 Ursula Lane)
was provided to the Commission for review. Mr. Williams had spoken to Dr. Fee and
noted the concerns in the staff report on page 3. There was a correction to the staff report
regarding lot 1 figures after the lot line adjustment would be in place. The corrections
were as follows: Average slope, 33.6%; LUF, 1.04; MDA, 7,800; and MFA, 5,200.
Commissioner Schreiner asked if the applicant realized that any hardscape improvements
to lot I would be at the expense of the existing development area. Mr. Williams
responded that the applicant was aware of this situation. She asked if there was any
attempt to use one driveway for the two lots. Mr. Williams responded no. It was not a
requirement of the subdivision. She further asked if the applicant was aware that certain
portions of the property may be required to be placed into a conservation easement at the
time of development due to the slope. Mr. Williams responded yes.
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Commissioner Firm confirmed that after the lot line adjustment, any project will still
adhere to all local zoning and building ordinances.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
David Mans, 1125 Ramona, Palo Alto, (husband of the applicant's daughter) commented
that they will be moving to 27271 Ursula Lane (lot 1). He was available for questions.
CLOSED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Cheng and seconded
by Commissioner Stutz to recommend approval of the lot line adjustment, Lands of
Spector, to the City Council (grant deed not required).
AYES: Chairman Doran, Commissioners Gottlieb, Jinkerson, Schreiner, Finn,
Cheng & Stutz
NOES: None
This item will be on the City Council consent calendar August 21, 1996.
3.2 LANDS OF SHEENE, 24017 Oak Knoll Circle (82-96-ZP-SD-GD); A
request for a Site Development Permit for a new residence.
A letter from J. Lohr Properties was provided to the Commission. They are requesting
the project not to exceed the elevations as shown on plan so the existing views of the Bay
from the pool deck of lot 27 can be maintained.
Commissioner Finn asked staff if there was any reason why the driveway needs to be 16
feet wide. Mr. Williams responded no, as the minimum currently is 14 feet wide.
Chairman Doran asked if the project had been reviewed with staff prior to submittal,
addressing some of the issues noted in the staff report. Mr. Williams responded yes.
Commissioner Schreiner felt the sight distance from the first leg of the circular driveway
was quite a blind curve. She asked if staff was aware that this may be a safety problem.
Ms. Proft responded it was something that was reviewed. She suggested asking the
architect.
Commissioner Gottlieb questioned the height of the house as she felt it would be 6-7 feet
higher than the next property. Mr. Williams commented that this was addressed in Mr.
Lohr's letter. They are comfortable with the elevations.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
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Mark Godby, 1351 Laurel Street, San Carlos, project architect, discussed the applicant's
desire for a traditionally designed French style one story home even though they would
be allowed a two story home. They tried to create a home that steps up the hill as it went
across the site, with the floor line very close to grade on the front, as it steps up the hill.
This creates a lower wall along the front of the house which helps to keep the mass
minimized. He felt they have broken up the mass of the house very well, setting the
house back significantly from the street, much further than required. The applicant
requested a 16 foot width driveway so they could pass a parked car on the circle, if
needed. The house height has been lowered two feet from their original application to
help protect neighbor's views. The story poles were placed 2 feet higher than the current
design indicates, as J. Lohr and the neighbor requested the house be lowered 2 feet.
Regarding the sight line at the corner, he noted that there were some traffic safety
regulations which would be followed. Certainly no trees or high shrubs would be
allowed to be planted within a sight line radius. Also noted was the wall in the rear
which helps to reduce grading near the back property line so they can still generate a lawn
or yard area without having to grade too much toward the neighbor's property. Dark
colors will be used on this site.
CLOSED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
Commissioner Finn felt the driveway was too wide and located within the setbacks. He
�y felt there were other solutions to passing cars. Commissioner Schreiner suggested a
turnout on the last leg so they could eliminate the second exit and just have a parking
space to the left of the house. She also felt they should not set up a situation which
creates a sight distance issue. A better solution would be to reduce the driveway to 14
feet in width, providing a turnout and carrying the driveway up a little further to provide
parking in that area. Commissioner Stutz discussed the driveway noting the four parking
spaces currently required does not seem to be enough. She would prefer requiring six
parking spaces. She would accept a 16 foot wide driveway so the applicants could
maneuver around parked cars and make the entire driveway available for parking. She
did not feel two entrances onto Oak Knoll Court was a safety issue. Commissioner
Cheng and Finn agreed with Commissioner Stutz regarding parking. Commissioner
Gottlieb would like the safety issue investigated further. Commissioner Jinkerson
preferred a 14 foot wide driveway whether it has one or two entrances, although he would
be more in favor of a singular entrance. Ms. Proft noted that the applicant's engineer
could provide an analysis for sight distance to determine whether the design meets the
requirements. Chairman Doran would like to see the analysis of the sight distance,
however, this was not an issue for her. She would like the driveway pulled out of the
setbacks.
Chairman Doran noted several items in the staff report which needed discussion: the first,
the rear grading to create a flat pad. Commissioner Stutz felt the back area was too big.
She would not want to see a cut up to 8 feet in depth and retaining walls up to 5 % feet in
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height. She suggested the back area be no more than 20-25 feet at the most. She was not
concerned with the back area length. She also suggested requiring two retaining walls
rather than one 6 foot retaining wall. She was also concerned with the amount of grading.
Commissioner Cheng and Finn agreed that it would be better if the retaining walls were
stepped.
Commissioner Gottlieb made the following concems/suggestions: move/shift the house
over 4-5 feet which would help with the driveway in the setbacks; a set-up patio area;
disagreed with 9 foot retaining walls; and the house not being built on the contours.
Chairman Doran commented on the letter from Steve Lohr who indicated their approval
of the elevations as proposed.
MOTION SECONDED, AMENDED AND FAILED: Motion by Commissioner Finn,
seconded by Commissioner Stutz and amended to approve the Site Development Permit
for a new residence, Lands of Sheene, with the following changes: move the house to the
left 4 feet; working with staff to reduce the driveway and back up area which is in the
setbacks; and the retaining wall in the rem to be changed from one retaining wall, to two
retaining walls; one 3 feet and one 4 feet in height.
Discussion ensued with the Assistant Engineer noting that as they move the house toward
the rear, if they want to keep the ridge at 501 foot elevation, they will be increasing the
amount of cut. The Chairman asked the architect to respond to the discussion regarding
moving the house. Mr. Godby responded that the Assistant Engineer was correct. An
earlier submittal proposed the house 10-12 feet further left. They had revised the design
to lessen the grading by pulling it to the right. He did not feel a 4 foot move would make
much difference. However, anything beyond that amount would increase the cut.
Chairman Doran asked the architect if he looked at ways not to encroach into the 30 foot
side setback. Mr. Godby responded that he wanted to remove the hammer head but the
owner wanted it for parking and turnaround. He further answered questions regarding the
retaining wall within the right hand setback, noting it was a 2-3 foot retaining wall
tapering down to zero. The walkway is decomposed granite. There is landscaping on all
four comers of the circle. The driveway circle is decomposed granite also. Chairman
Doran felt the driveway area in the front setback could be eliminated easily.
Commissioner Smtz suggested a change to condition #2, requesting the landscape
screening and erosion control plan be reviewed by the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Finn did not want this as a part of his motion. Commissioner Jinkerson
could not support a 16 foot wide driveway or the two retaining walls (3 feet and 4 feet) as
he could not support a retaining wall of more than 6 feet whether it is one or two walls.
AYES: Commissioners Cheng, Stutz & Firm
NOES: Chairman Doran, Commissioners Schreiner, Gottlieb & Jinkerson
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MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Chairman Doran and seconded by
Commissioner Finn to approve the Site Development Permit for a new residence, Lands
of Sheene, with the following changes/amendments to the conditions of approval: the
width of the driveway shall be reduced to 14 feet where it encroaches into the front
setback; the circular portion of the driveway shall be relocated so that it does not
encroach into the front setback; grading in the rear yard shall be reduced so that cuts and
a single retaining wall, not to exceed four (4) feet in height with the yard terraced up the
slope; the location of the house shall be shifted at least four feet to the left; and site
distance analysis shall be completed to determine that the driveway is not in an unsafe
location, to the satisfaction of the Engineering Department.
AYES: Chairman Doran, Commissioners Schreiner, Cheng, Stutz, Gottlieb,
Jinkerson & Finn
NOES: None
This approval is subject to a 21 day appeal period.
3.3 LANDS OF WEN, 12228 Via Arline Road (72-96-ZP-SD); A request for
a Site Development Permit for a new residence.
ir Staff had nothing further to add to the staff report. Commissioner Gottlieb questioned the
slope easement over the swale asking if there was any consideration to place a bridge
over the swale for the driveway. The Assistant Engineer noted it was not a requirement
of the subdivision. Mr. Williams noted that they would need to make a determination of
the basis for the request.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Buzz Bryan, 10070 Pasadena Avenue, Cupertino, project architect, noted that he had read
the staff report, commenting on several meetings with staff, always endeavoring to make
recommended changes. He thought most of the items of concern were resolved. He
referred to A8 of the plan. They have made the building appear as though it was stepping
down, adjusting to conform to the site. He addressed the following: substantial reduction
in the grading plan; stepping the east bedroom wing (on the high side) 3 '/z feet above the
main floor of the building; always trying to balance cut and fill; problems with vertical
heights on the building; dropped the dinning room floor line one foot; working toward
conforming to the Design Guidelines; 44 foot setback from Concepcion; the 14% slope;
story poles do not indicate any cut; the appearance of bulk; and the circulation of the
plans to the neighbors. Mr. Bryan provided signatures from all of the neighbors (except
for one) who are in support of the project.
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Brenda Wen, 248 Delphi Circle, Los Altos, applicant, commented on sharing the plans
with 12 of her neighbors. The neighbors are very happy with the project. This floor plan
fits their family needs.
Chairman Doran asked if Concepcion Road was on the list of Scenic Highways. The
Planning Director responded no.
Everett Bell, 26653 Birch Hill Way, was concerned with the height of the structure on
Concepcion, the need for landscaping, the bulk of the house on Concepcion, the proposed
red tile roof, drainage, and who is responsible for maintaining Via Arline Road which is a
private road.
Deanna Taaffe, 26645 Purissima Road, also owner of 12030 Elsie Way. She has viewed
the story poles from the Elsie Way property and she did not believe the new structure will
disturb views from the top of the knoll.
CLOSED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
Commissioner Gottlieb asked Ms. Manca if there was any discussion regarding building
the house on contours (by shifting the house) rather than across contours. The Planning
( Director noted that they had discussed this with the applicants, suggesting that this was a
6I way to reduce the amount of grading and the amount of visibility of the structure. The
owner indicated for their needs, this would not work for them. Staff indicated to the
applicant that if they were going to pursue this avenue, they would need to step the
structure down the hill which they did. The current design is much improved over the
previous submittal. Commissioner Gottlieb asked if there was any thought to placing the
garage at the other end whether it could be underground. The Planning Director
responded no.
Chairman Doran asked: was closing the attic space in the discussion in an attempt not to
count that area as floor area? Ms. Manca responded yes.
Commissioner Jinkerson was concerned with the culvert and Swale. He would like to see
the Swale kept as natural as possible. He felt a bridge that was both aesthetically pleasing
and engineered properly would be far superior and cause less problems as it relates to
water velocity and erosion. He was of the opinion that the house will stand high on the
property. He requested a maximum height of 24 feet and the house moved down the hill.
He agreed with the staff report noting that the predominant slope of the roof should
follow the predominant slope of the land. He could not support the project as proposed.
Commissioner Gottlieb agreed with Commissioner Jinkerson. She would prefer a bridge
as previously mentioned. The house should be set on contours and lowered in height.
The house should not be any higher than the highest elevation of the property with the
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garage under the house. Commissioner Finn agreed with the suggestion for a bridge. He
thought the project was good with a few changes, including lowering of the house by 2
feet and change the placement of the garages so they are not facing the major street.
Commissioner Cheng agreed with staff recommendation for lowering the roof line and
she agreed with the suggestion for a bridge. Commissioner Schreiner felt the site was
very visible, requesting the house be lowered and nested in. The roof line should be
lowered by 2 feet (no higher than the highest elevation). Great care should be taken with
regard to landscaping to make the structures blend into the site. Commissioner Stutz also
agreed with the suggestions in the staff report (condition #10). She did not like the attic
area not being counted as floor area, suggesting to reduce the area to below 5 feet rather
than 7 feet as she does not approve of false ceilings. She also felt the house needed to be
moved 30-35 feet towards Via Arlene and lowered (from the 350 foot contour line to 343
foot).
There was a consensus for a redesign of the layout of the house on the site that shifts it 7
feet down Via Arline Road but not rotating the house on the site.
There was a consensus (4-3) to rotate the house on the site (contours). Mr. Wen
commented that they gave up views for privacy. Mr. Bryan commented that this may
result in increased grading.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Finn and seconded
by Commissioner Schreiner to continue the Site Development Permit for a new residence,
Lands of Wen, for a redesign, with the following recommendations: reduce the overall
height of the roof by 2 feet; move the residence down the hillside, toward Via Arline
Road so that the comer of the living room which was proposed at the 350 foot contour,
shifted to the 341 foot elevation; the elevation of the west wing should be reduced by a
minimum of 2 feet and should be nested to minimize height; and investigate the use of a
bridge to access the property over the drainage swale in lieu of the proposed culvert.
AYES: Chairman Doran, Commissioners Ankerson, Cheng, Stutz, Gottlieb,
Schreiner & Finn
NOES: None
This item will be re -noticed for public hearing.
Brief break at 9:00 p.m.
3.4 LANDS OF CHAO/PANG, 25701 Lomita Linda Court (185-95-ZP-SD-
GD); A request for a Site Development Permit for a new residence, pool
and spa.
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A letter from a neighbor, Olga Wholey, was provided to the Commission. Ms. Manca
provided a memo regarding an additional condition requiring a conservation easement
over the portions of the property with slopes greater than 30"/0. She also provided a brief
chronology of the "grandfathered" history of this site. Commissioner Jinkerson
questioned the purpose of maintaining the 6 foot fence in the conservation easement. He
suggested wording to the new condition (#15) that the tennis court and the area around it
may be maintained but not the 6 foot fence.
The Planning Director explained the history of the project noting that the Council had
voted to allow all of the residences which had extensive earthquake damage to
grandfather the existing floor and development areas. The Planning Director spoke with
the City Attorney asking her opinion on how much discretion the Commission has to deal
with the specifics of the design. Her feeling was that generally, within the parameters of
the grandfathered numbers, if the Commission feels there is a way to work with the
structure that better addresses their concerns or neighbors concerns, but still maintaining
the grandfathered numbers, it is within their purview to revise the design to accommodate
concerns. He also noted that the City Council made clear that the project could use the
grandfathered MDA/MFA figures, however other aspects of the design most comply with
Town codes in all other respects.
Commissioner Schreiner asked if permits were obtained on all of the development area.
Mr. Williams responded yes. The construction dates back to 1965. She further
questioned the Fire Department requirements for the access to the proposed residence
from Lomita Linda Lane to be a minimum width of 14 feet and this width shall be
maintained for fire apparatus. She asked how they were going to widen the bulb without
taking square footage. Ms. Manca commented the right-of-way for the bulb is a 40 foot
radius so the widening could be completed within the radius. The applicant has provided
an alternative design which would use less pavement. The Fire Department's main
concern is to have a turnaround.
Commissioner Gottlieb would like to make sure that the road dedication along
Ravensbury Avenue on the Los Altos Hills side has been dedication to Los Altos Hills
rather than the County of Santa Clara. The Assistant Engineer noted that the path is
within the Town right-of-way.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Gary Ahem, 52 Jeter Street, Redwood City, project architect, noting that they inherited
the site plan, and the retaining wall. He noted that they cannot remove the driveway
without removing the retaining wall. The driveway actually holds up the structural
retaining wall and the retaining wall holds up the rest of the hill. They have created a
single story element from the front of the house and stepped down the living room to help
break up the two story element in the back. They have tucked the garage underneath on
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one side and some bedrooms on the other side. In between, to break up the area, they
have lowered a terrace so they would not have one mass wall on the face of the project.
They do have some terracing that is stepping up, trying to minimize and staying within
the Design Guidelines relating to two story elements.
Commissioner Jinkerson acknowledged that they can build up to 6,704 square feet. The
question is what is the right way to do it. He realized that Mr. Ahem was not the original
architect. He asked if there was a better way to design this property as he had concerns
with the visibility of the back of the house. He asked if there was a way to lower the
retaining wall, lower the driveway, and step the house down the back. Mr. Ahem
responded that one of the issues they looked at earlier in the process was the possibility of
removing the entire driveway area out back to be replaced with lawn, planting, etc. When
the project engineer investigated the possibility he found that the driveway is holding the
retaining wall from falling over.
Commissioner Schreiner questioned the proposed 6 inch deep concrete swale asking if
there was any thought to making it a natural swale in that area. Mr. Ahem responded that
they are using the concrete only to maintain the swale as it comes down the hillside.
They will be working with a landscape architect to provide a better visual appearance.
Chairman Doran asked Mr. Ahern if the retaining wall was structurally re -engineered.
Mr. Ahern commented on Terrmearch geotechnical investigation which noted an area
opposite the garage doors that was experiencing some type of slippage or failure. Due to
this information, they will be shoring up that small portion of the wall. It appears to all
parties that the retaining wall is still stable. Commissioner Gottlieb suggested that they
use a part of the house as a retaining wall against the slope to reduce bulk as viewed from
Magdalena Avenue.
Mr. Ahern's commented that the sewer will run on the property line (north side) because
the house next door will be coming in soon for site development. They have spoken to
the owner regarding an agreement for sharing the costs of the sewer connection. It was
noted that the location of the sewer line could be changed with engineering approval.
Richard Dixon, 25707 Lomita Linda Court, voiced concerns with access to his property
during construction and with drainage. His concerns were answered by the Assistant
Engineer.
John Fowler, 25625 Fernhill Drive, west side neighbor, commented on the sewer, noting
that some time ago when Frampton Court was developed and the sewer was extended up
Magdalena Avenue, an easement was granted in connection with the lots on Frampton
Court which runs from Magdalena Avenue to his property for purposes of future sewer.
He thought it may be cheaper and better for the applicants to drop the sewer a shorter
distance down the hill across his property and Dr. Carrie's property. He would like the
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Commission and the developer to consider this alternative because this carries with it the
potential of connecting a few more houses. He would be willing to grant the right to put
a sewer across his line with appropriate conditions. This may be a better solution than the
one proposed. They would, of course, need the approval of Dr. Came also. This change
would require an amendment to condition #22.
He further voiced the following concerns and objections: require a lower profile, less
obtrusive design; consider views from Magdalena Avenue; privacy issues onto his
property as seen from the proposed garage and upper deck; previous design not obtrusive;
and the severe impacts on the west side which will not be mitigated by just planting trees.
He suggested pushing the house back, planting trees along the driveway and not having a
two story structure on his side. He suggested the following: 1) two story structure to be
pushed back and reduced in height with a hip roof and no deck on the west side; 2) no
exterior lights; 3) specific landscape plan to indicate the tree location at a higher elevation
at the driveway level; 4) additional wording to condition #3, third sentence, "In addition,
special attention should be given to planting along the top of the west driveway..."; 5)
recommend an increase of the $5,000 landscape deposit, if possible; 6) condition #6, to
include the west facing windows; 7) condition 910, no outdoor lighting along the
driveway, the garage side, along the kitchen side (west elevation 3); and 8) no deck on
the west side and use a hip roof on west side.
Brian Carrie, 25655 Fernhill Drive, voiced the same concerns and suggestions as Mr.
Fowler which included the following: seeing a huge expanse of light; prominent lot; the
previous house design; placing the garage under the house; the new north west comer
gable roof; bulk and mass; surface water runoff, sewer connection easement; impact on
shrubbery relating to the widening of Lomita Lane; deck area surrounding the kitchen
looking down into his master bedroom and bathroom; and the over expansive house.
Bob Owen, 445 South San Antonio Road, Los Altos, noted the many good comments
made by the Commission and neighbors. He appreciated the information relating to
suggested sewer connection. He referred to the site plan, indicating the new house was
approximately the same size as the previous house. He further discussed the west side
elevation and design elements. He felt that landscaping is a very important especially on
the west side, the rear of the house, and on both sides of the wall.
Chairman Doran questioned the possibility of the retaining wall and driveway giving
way. The Planning Director commented that the project geotechnical consultant and
engineer do certify the accuracy in their report.
Commissioner Jinkerson stated that when he looked at the property in December, it
looked to him to be a ridgeline lot. A two story structure should not be allowed. The
Planning Director did not feel there were many options in creating a one story structure
on this site with the numbers available. As stated in the staff report, the proposed house
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is an earthquake rebuild of a 28 foot high house. The floor area and development area
was grandfathered by the City Council. Staff does recommend that the overall height be
reduced. He did feel it was reasonable to request a modification of the second story to
address the concerns of the neighbors.
Gary Aherns, to answer Commissioner Gottlieb's question, responded that the area below
the great room was crawl space. They have stepped the house down the hillside. He
indicated that yes, the maximum height from the bottom of the pad to the top of the
ridgeline is 27 feet. The 27 feet is actually buried back underneath the house. With the
exception of the one gable, the maximum height of the structure in any one shear face is
between 18-20 feet (west area). They are not opposed to lowering the gable to a hip to be
continuance with the rest of the house. This would lower the peak from being 25 feet to
18 feet, traveling up to 25 feet back up the hillside. You do not see 27 straight feet of
building in any one space. Commissioner Gottlieb asked if the roofline could be dropped
down 2 feet. Mr. Ahem noted that the current roof pitch is minimum.
Commissioner Gottlieb compared the original house design to the proposed design asking
what they can do to the proposed design to get the appearance of the original house. She
was concerned with visibility.
Discussion ensued regarding proposed lighting. Mr. Ahem noted that the exterior
lighting placed on the house will be as required by code for safety and utility lighting.
The skylight over the kitchen area will be tinted and no lighting will be placed within the
well. He provided a sketch of the house design eliminating the gable. He noted the
neighbors concerns with visibility, looking down onto their property. They have tried to
minimize the amount of windows on the north west comer over the garage. The large
window in the kitchen area was made high to try to direct the view up out towards the
ridgeline and hillside. The deck is to prevent any views down onto the neighbors
property.
Mr. Fowler did not feel the deck was adequate for his privacy purposes. He agreed with
Commissioner Gottlieb in that he would like the design similar to the original house
design with the pool in the front area. He asked that the Commission make the developer
design the house properly.
Bob Owen, reiterated that they did not design this house. The house was designed by the
person who previously owned the house who wanted something entirely different and
new for her.
Brian Carrie, for clarification, noted that the new owners and developers do not have the
discretion to change the plans significantly unless the plans are rejected by the
Commission. He recommended rejection requesting that the redesign better suit the
community and the neighbors.
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CLOSED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
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Commissioner Finn asked staff if the Commission rejected the application, keeping
within the MDA/MFA, could staff and the applicant rework the design, having more
latitude to provide a better design for all. The Planning Director replied yes, with the
Commission providing direction. A consensus was not reached regarding whether this lot
was a ridgeline lot or to the suggestion to have the applicants consider reducing the
amount of development area.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Gottlieb and
seconded by Commissioner Jinkerson to continue the Site Development Permit for a new
residence, pool and spa, Lands of Chao/Pang, for a redesign with the following
recommendations: redesign the west side of the building to reduce the second story
impacts from living area which could be obtrusive to the immediate neighbors to the
south; the maximum height of the two story areas should be reduced to 24 feet; the rear
elevation should be revised to reduce massing of the residence as viewed from Magdalena
Road; the deck along the west side, over the garage, should be removed; the west
elevation should be redesigned to eliminate or strictly limit any need for outdoor lighting
on the second story; direct the architect to prepare an analysis of the feasibility of limiting
the structure to one story, a limited two story element, and/or shifting the second story
emphasis to the east side of the lot, to address questions raised by the Commission; and
include new wording for condition #15 that the tennis court and the area around it may be
maintained but not the 6 foot fence.
AYES: Chairman Doran, Commissioners Finn, Stutz, Schreiner, Cheng, Gottlieb
& Jinkerson
NOES: None
This item will be re -noticed for public hearing.
PASSED BY CONSENSUS: To continue the meeting past 11:00 p.m.
3.5 AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTERS 10-1 (ZONING) AND 10-2 (SITE
DEVELOPMENT) OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE regarding revisions to
the Site Development Review process, and proposed Negative Declaration
(continued from June 26").
The Planning Director introduced this item noting the revisions made as directed at the
pTnous meeting. Discussion ensued with a recommendation that all items approved by
'*aff with notice" appear on the Planning Commission agenda as a consent item with the
exception of landscape plans.
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Approved 8/28/96
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED BY CONSENSUS: Motion by Commissioner
Gottlieb, seconded by Commissioner Cheng and passed by consensus to recommend to
the City Council adoption of the proposed Negative Declaration and adoption of the
ordinance amendments, as revised by the Commission.
This item will be scheduled for a City Council public hearing.
4. REPORT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
4.1 Planning Commission Representative for July 17 meeting Chairman
Doran, reported on the following items: Lands of D'Amour; Lands of
Yen; and the exception to allow a driveway in a conservation easement,
Land of Shideler.
4.2 Planning Commission Representative for the August 7th meeting -
canceled.
4.3 Planning Commission Representative for the August 21" meeting -
Commissioner Gottlieb.
5. OLD BUSINESS
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5.1 Report from subcommittees. There will be a Planning Issues
Subcommittee meeting July 30' to continue the discuss regarding non-
conforming structures.
None.
7. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
7.1 Approval of the June 26'" minutes. PASSED BY CONSENSUS: To
approve the June 26' minutes with Commissioner Jinkerson abstaining.
7.2 Approval of the July 2" minutes. PASSED BY CONSENSUS: To
approve the July 2, 1996 minutes.
7.3 Approval of the July 10' minutes. PASSED BY CONSENSUS: To
approve the July 10" minutes with clarifications to pages 4, 5, and 9.
Planning Commission Minutes
July 24, 1996
Page 14
Approved 8/28/96
8. REPORT FROM THE SITE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING OF
JULY 16 AND 23, 1996
8.1 LANDS OF TATARSKY, 25325 La Loma Drive (116--96-ZP-SD); A
request for a Site Development Permit for a pool and landscape plan.
Approved with conditions.
8.2 LANDS OF LOHR, 24048 Oak Knoll Circle (lot 11) (122-96-ZP-SD); A
request for a Site development Permit for a landscape plan. Approved
with conditions.
Discussion ensued regarding the Lands of Lohr. It was requested to continue the item to
the following meeting for a review of the plan and the conditions of approval.
Further discussion ensued with all Commissioners in favor of a landscape/lighting plan
submitted with the residence plan on future projects. It was suggested to have the next
representative from the Planning Commission (Gottlieb) express the concerns of the
Commission and request that landscape plans be included with an application submittal.
9. ADJOURNMENT
4W The meeting was adjourned by consensus at 11:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Planning Secretary