HomeMy WebLinkAbout10/09/1996Minutes of a Regular Meeting Approved 10/23/96
Town of Los Altos Hills
PLANNING COMMISSION
Wednesday, October 9, 1996, 7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers, 26379 Fremont Road
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ROLL CALL AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Planning Commission meeting was called to order at 7:04 p.m. in the Council
Chambers at Town Hall.
Present: Chairman Doran, Commissioners Gottlieb, Stutz, Cheng, Schreiner, Finn &
Jinkerson
Absent: None
Staff: Curtis Williams, Planning Director; Sheryl Proft, Assistant Engineer; Lam
Lonberger, Planning Secretary
2. PRESENTATIONS FROM THE FLOOR -None.
3. PUBLIC HEARINGS
3.1 LANDS OF CARSTEN, 13761 La Paloma Road (141-96-ZP-SD); A
request for a Site Development Permit for a secondary dwelling unit and
addition (continued from September 25, 1996).
Chairman Doran disclosed that she had a previous professional relationship with the
applicant's architect several years ago.
Staff had nothing further to add to the staff report. The applicant's architect had provided
a brief letter and a sketch of the main residence highlighting the future addition and the
new roof design. The drawing was for informational purposes to show future intentions
and the goal of having the secondary unit subordinate to the main residence. As indicated
from the sketch, the main residence would match the style of the proposed secondary
living unit. The purpose of building the secondary unit first is to provide temporary
living quarters for the owner while the main residence is constructed.
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4 The Planning Director indicted that with the road dedication, the lot size would drop
below one acre. However, the City Attorney felt the project is coming in as a one acre lot
and it does not become less than one acre until the dedication is taken. La Paloma Road is
not centered within the right of way so that property lines are not clearly defined.
Accurate survey information will be needed to verify the current property boundary and
to prepare an adequate description of the land to be dedicated (condition #18). The
survey would also determine that the setback is at least 30 feet from the side property
line.
Chairman Doran asked if staff discussed the proposed height of the secondary dwelling
with the applicant. The Planning Director was not sure, however the applicant has been
working on the project for over three years. It was noted that the height of the neighbor's
garage is 19 feet. Further discussion ensued regarding the following: the maximum
height of the secondary unit (20 feet, 6 inches), increased from the existing barn height of
12 feet; encompassing a loft above a portion of the living area; and the secondary
dwelling unit being subordinate to and architecturally consistent with the primary
dwelling. Commissioner Jinkerson had spoken to the applicant who noted concern
regarding the maximum 1,000 square foot limitation and the height concern as noted in
the staff report. The applicant told the Commissioner that the story poles were actually a
foot higher than the proposed structure. He further questioned the recommendation
regarding painting the structure white which is the color of the main residence, and the
issue of a portion of the new patio which extends up to 4 feet into the 30 foot setback.
Commissioner Gottlieb clarified that the use of the structure (non -habitable to habitable)
is changing requiring additional conditions of approval.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Lou Dorcich, 3660 Soquel Drive, Sequel, project architect, verified that they have been
working on this project for approximately three years. They have had several meetings
with staff over this period of time. The applicant's intent was to add a second story to her
residence as well as adding a secondary unit, using the footprint of the barn. They agreed
to reduce the square footage to 1,000 square feet maximum which will eliminate the
laundry room space. There will not be any interior loft. The biggest difference in the
design is the pitch of the roof which he felt could be mitigated by landscaping and trees.
The barn sits at a much lower elevation than the main residence. He requested approval
of the project with the proposed roof height.
Katy Stella, Pathways Committee, asked if the easement is taken after the plan is
approved, would this have any impact on the pathway request. The Planning Director
responded no.
CLOSED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
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Commissioner Cheng was comfortable with the proposed height as long as the structure
conforms with the maximum 1,000 square feet. Commissioner Finn agreed. He also felt
it was not a problem to leave the house white and with the decking encroaching 4 feet
into the setback. Commissioner Schreiner commented on the staffs careful reading of
the ordinance regarding secondary dwelling units. If the secondary unit was in the back
of the main residence, she would not have as much difficulty with the project. She would
like the structure height to be reduced 2 feet. She also felt the secondary unit should
conform with the standard color guide, and she would like to see the decking out of the
setback. Commissioner Gottlieb stated that the secondary unit should be subordinate to
the main residence and she would like to see the roof line reduced 2 '/z to 3 feet.
Commissioner Jinkerson was concerned with the proposed height until he compared it to
what was built on the next property. The structure will not stand out any more than any
other structure in that location. He was not concerned with the color nor with the decking
encroaching 4 feet into the setback. In time, the secondary unit will be subordinate to the
main residence. Commissioner Stutz agreed with the previous comments. She does not
object to the color or the height. She commented on cutting both ends of the roofing for
better overhangs and for a better look. She would allow the storage shed as long as there
was no interchange of traffic as this is a good, insignificant location for the shed.
Chairman Doran, after much consideration, would leave the height, color and the decking
as proposed with the reduction of the unit to a maximum of 1,000 square feet.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Firm and seconded
by Commissioner Jinkerson to approve the Site Development Permit for a secondary
dwelling unit and addition, Lands of Carsten, with the following clarifications: the
structure shall be a maximum of 1,000 square feet; the paint colors shall match the
existing structure (white), or, if changed,...; and the decking can remain 4 feet into the
setback.
AYES: Chairman Doran, Commissioners Cheng, Stutz, Jinkerson & Firm
NOES: Commissioners Schreiner & Gottlieb
This approval is subject to a 21 day appeal period.
3.2 LANDS OF LAU/LIANG, 12894 La Cresta Drive (161-96-ZP-SD); A
request for a Site Development Permit for a swimming pool.
Staff had nothing further to add to the staff report. There were questions from the
Commission regarding the area between the concrete patio and the pool elevation where
it drops 6 feet, and with the proposed retaining wall. It was not clear from the plans if the
basement leads onto the pool decking. This needs to be clarified. The Planning Director
suggested fielding the question to the architect.
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OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Tom Sloan, 255 N. Market Street, San Jose, new residence project architect, answered
questions regarding exiting the basement. The Planning Director indicated that the
proposed plans will be reviewed to make sure they match the previously approved plans.
The concrete patio that overlooks the pool was discussed. Mr. Sloan noted that the area
was a cantilevered section which overhangs the pool. Unfortunately, the plan section
does not show the complete pad of the proposed building site. Commissioner Gottlieb
felt the deck should be lowered to existing grade to reduce the exposed retaining wall.
The deck is being built out, not at existing grade, but at above existing grade.
Steve DuBridge, 1000 Willow Glen Way, San Jose, project landscape architect, provided
an enlarged section of the plan which he felt would help clarify the proposed project
showing the greatest variation between the existing grade and the pool grade. The upper
terrace was approved with the original application although the Planning Director felt the
upper terrace design needs to be a part of the pool design. The overhang (viewing
platform) over the pool appeared to be a safety issue.
CLOSED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
Two issues were discussed: the retaining wall, and the upper overhang over the pool.
Commissioner Gottlieb was concerned with the 5 foot retaining wall as the standard
should not be more than 2 '/x to 3 feet in height. She would like to see the concrete deck
lowered. Commissioner Jinkerson felt the viewing/diving platform might not conform to
UBC requirements and may present a dangerous condition. Additional information
(elevation section) is needed. Mr. Sloan noted that their intent was to create a building
pad on the ridge with a basement without burying it too much. He does not want to
change the elevation of the building pad. Commissioner Schreiner asked if they were
proposing a 5 foot exposed retaining wall the whole length of the pool. Mr. Sloan
responded yes.
Consensus: a 5 foot retaining wall was not acceptable. Consensus: up to a 4 foot
retaining wall was acceptable, and investigating UBC standards to make sure the viewing
platform conforms. Consensus: the redesign shall return to the Planning Commission for
review and approval.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Gottlieb and
seconded by Commissioner Ankerson to continue the Site Development Permit
application for a swimming pool, Lands of Lau/Liang, to October 23, 1996 for a redesign,
with the following recommendations: the height of the retaining wall (pool) to be
reduced in height; and the viewing platform conforming with UBC.
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4I AYES: Commissioners Stutz, Schreiner, Jinkerson & Gottlieb
NOES: Chairman Doran, Commissioners Finn & Cheng
Mr. Lau felt they have followed all recommendations as requested. He was very
disappointed with the request for a redesign. The Planning Director noted that the
applicant could look at stepping the terrace down a few steps but not directly down,
which would expose the basement allowing the 4 foot maximum on the uphill side and
the 3 feet maximum on the downhill side.
3.3 LANDS OF WINDY HILL ASSOCIATES, 27190 Ohlone Lane (Parcel 1
of the Lands of Laub, Fremont Road and Arastradero Road) (139-96-ZP-
SD-GD); A request for a Site Development Permit for a new residence.
Chairman Doran and Commissioner Gottlieb stepped down from the hearing due to a
business conflict of interest. Commissioner Jinkerson disclosed that a distant relative is
involved with this project whom he has not seen in many years. Commissioner Schreiner
will preside over the meeting.
The Assistant Engineer discussed the original subdivision, the filing of a "conditional
determination" and the revision of the flood maps relating to elevations. The flood
elevations shown on the plans indicate the new elevations that were set by the conditional
determination. Each of the properties have been looked at to determine that the floor
elevation being proposed is higher than the flood elevation. It was noted that the water
tank on the property will be removed.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
John Barksdale, 4151 Middlefield Road, Palo Alto, project architect, discussed the
following: traffic noise; using the house as a sound wall; the conservation easement; the
house pushed up to (within) 5 feet of the conservation easement; the placement of rooms
as they related to the street noise; a one story appearance on the street side; privacy
supplied by the vegetation on the eastern side of the lot; the use of stucco with a dark flat
roof; exterior materials for the remaining three lots; the detached garage; creating variety
in the subdivision; and the mound to be left or lessened.
Commissioner Schreiner, addressing noise, asked if they have considered any other
siting. Mr. Barksdale responded yes, although this location is a balance on the lot
creating a buffer from the noise. He further discussed design rationale.
CLOSED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
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4W Discussion ensued noting the difficulty of the lot, noise and size. Commissioner Finn
appreciated the variation in materials in the subdivision. Commissioner Stutz and Mr.
Barksdale discussed the statement in the staff report regarding the two story elevations,
especially those on the south and east, which are most visible, showing flat two-story
facades. Staff suggested possible greater articulation to these surfaces with additional
eaves or balconies, etc. Commissioner Schreiner recommended non evasive plants for
shielding, if it becomes necessary to allow planting in the conservation easement, and
only open style fencing in the conservation easement.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Finn and seconded
by Commissioner Jinkerson to approve the Site Development Permit for a new residence,
Lands of Windy Hill (Parcel 1), with the following changestamendments to the
conditions of approval: revised plan to exhibit greater articulation on the south and the
east elevations, such as by adding a roofline eave below the second level, or similar
treatment to break up the two story facade.; add to condition #2 that native landscaping
shall be required to replace any shrubs or trees removed from the easement; and fencing
within the conservation easement shall be limited to open fencing, permitting the
movement of wildlife.
AYES: Acting Chairman Schreiner, Commissioners Stutz, Cheng, Jinkerson &
Finn
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Chairman Doran & Commissioner Gottlieb
This approval is subject to a 21 day appeal period.
3.4 LANDS OF WINDY HILL ASSOCIATES, 27220 Ohlone Lane (Parcel 4
of the Lands of Laub, Fremont Road and Amstradero Road) (137-96-ZP-
SD-GD); A request for a Site Development Permit for a new residence.
Chairman Doran and Commissioner Gottlieb stepped down from the hearing due to a
business conflict of interest.
Staff had nothing further to add to the staff report.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
John Barksdale, 4151 Middlefield Road, Palo Alto, project architect, discussed the
following: the uniqueness of the lot; exterior materials, the flat tile roof; and six separate
levels to follow the contours of the land. Commissioner Schreiner asked how difficult
would it be to meet the staff recommendation to lower the finished floor so it will not
exceed 3 feet above the existing grade. Mr. Barksdale responded they could comply.
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However, the more they lower it, the more grading required to keep water diverted
around the house.
Fred Hodge, 4140 Old Adobe Road, Palo Alto, represented the three families on Old
Adobe Road which will be impacted by this project. The Laubs were good enough to
keep the trees down to 7 feet high which preserved views. He requested consideration to
the height of trees to preserve valley views. He did not object to the design of the house.
CLOSED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
Commissioner Stutz agreed with Mr. Hodge regarding limiting the height of trees. She
suggested adding to condition 42 restricting tree height to preserve valley views.
Commissioner Jinkerson agreed with lowering the house 2 feet. However, he would not
want to legislate the height of trees. He would prefer the neighbors work together and he
would encourage discussion of tree height at the Site Development hearing.
Commissioner Cheng would like the height of the house lowered 2 feet and the height of
the trees limited. Commissioner Finn concurred. Commissioner Schreiner also agreed.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Firm and seconded
by Commissioner Stutz to approve the Site Development Permit for a new residence,
Lands of Windy Hill (Parcel 4) with the following changes/amendments to the conditions
of approval: the structure shall be lowered on the site by at least 2 feet; and add to
condition 42 that trees should be limited to heights which at maturity will protect the
valley view of neighbors.
AYES: Acting Chairman Schreiner, Commissioners Cheng, Stutz, & Firm
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Chairman Doran, Commissioners Gottlieb & Jinkerson
This item is subject to a 21 day appeal period.
4. REPORT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
4.1 Planning Commission Representative for the October 2nd meeting,
Commissioner Jinkerson, reported on the Lands of Tan, approved by the
City Council with conditions. He commented on the approval process and
the joint Planning Commission/City Council meeting scheduled for
November 14, 1996. He felt, overall, the Planning Commissioners worked
well together except for a few gray areas which could be discussed at the
joint meeting.
4.2 Planning Commission Representative for October 16' -meeting canceled
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4 5. OLD BUSINESS
5.1 Report from subcommittees: Commissioner Gottlieb commented on the
Los Altos/Los Altos Hills Community Volunteer Awards Luncheon
scheduled for December 6, 1996.
5.2 Letter to J. Lohr regarding exterior materials.
CONSENSUS: To forward the letter to the City Council for review.
6. NEW BUSINESS
None.
7. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
7.1 Approval of the September 25, 1996 minutes.
PASSED BY CONSENSUS: To approve the September 25, 1996 minutes with minor
changes to pages 5, 8 & 10.
8. REPORT FROM THE SITE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING OF
SEPTEMBER 17 1996
8.1 LANDS OF MATHIASON, 13850 Paseo Del Roble; A request for a Site
Development Permit for a pool. Approved with conditions.
8.2 LANDS OF SAAR, 24024 Oak Knoll Circle; A request for a Site
Development Permit for a sport court and a driveway extension.
Approved with conditions.
9. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned by consensus at 9:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Lani Lonberger
Planning Secretary
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