HomeMy WebLinkAbout03/11/19974r Minutes of a Regular Meeting Approved 3/26/97
Town of Los Altos Hills
PLANNING COMMISSION
Tuesday, March 11, 1997, 7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers, 26379 Fremont Road
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ROLL CALL AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Planning Commission meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers at
Town Hall.
Present: Vice -Chair Gottlieb, Commissioners Cheng, Schreiner, Finn, Stutz & Jinkerson
Absent: Chairman Doran
Staff: Curtis Williams, Planning Director; Sheryl Proft, Assistant Engineer; Suzanne
Davis, Planner; Susan Manca, Planner; Lani Lonberger, Planning Secretary
2. PRESENTATIONS FROM THE FLOOR -None.
CONSENT CALENDAR
3.1 LANDS OF CALIFORNIA WATER SERVICE COMPANY, Magdalena
at Eastbrook Avenue/1-280; Requests for Site Development Permit,
Conditional Use Permit, and Variance for installation (co -location) of
wireless telecommunications facilities; and adoption of Negative
Declaration.
A. Sprint Spectrum (File #157-96-ZP-SD-CUP-VAR-ND)
B. Pacific Bell Mobile Services (File #49-96-ZP-SD-CUP-VAR-ND)
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Stutz and seconded
by Commissioner Ankerson to approve the consent calendar.
AYES: Vice -Chair Gottlieb, Commissioners Cheng, Schreiner, Finn, Stutz & Jinkerson
NOES: None
ABSENT: Chairman Doran
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4. PUBLIC HEARINGS
4.1 LANDS OF HOFING, 26045 Torello Lane (215-96-ZP-SD); A request for a
Site Development Permit for a secondary dwelling unit.
Ms. Manca introduced this item noting a letter had been submitted by the applicant addressing
condition # 15, the installation of a 5 foot wide, Type IIB pathway along Torello Lane.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Bill Hofing, 26045 Torello Lane, applicant, reiterated the information in his letter noting he had
surveyed five other cul-de-sacs in his area (Mulberry, Alicante, Eucalyptus, Rancho Manuella,
and Altadena), none of which have a Type IIB path. He felt the pathway will just provide for
convenient street parking which is not the intended use. The Planning Director noted the
Pathway Element of the General Plan states that all roads are to have roadside pathways within
the road right-of-way with the exception of cul-de-sacs with six lots or less. Torello Lane has
eight lots. The request was made by the Pathway Committee based on the Pathway Element.
The Planning Commission can determine if the request is appropriate in this instance. When
questioned, Mr. Hofing noted his preference to leave the driveway configuration as shown. He
did not know 17 years ago that one parking space was encroaching into the setback. He also
noted additional drainage will be provided as the natural swale is either overgrown or
(60 inadequate.
Commissioner Stutz asked if there was any consideration to place the guest house perpendicular
on the lot rather than parallel to the house so it does not extend the long linear look. Mr. Hofing
replied no, he preferred the location as shown.
Stan Field, 139 Forest Avenue, Palo Alto, project architect, discussed the siting of the second
unit, the use of horizontal rather than vertical siding (recycled old redwood), and the low pitch
of the roof. The pad will also be elevated slightly.
Peter Shaw, 160 Forest Avenue, Palo Alto, project landscape architect, noted the drainage
situation will be solved by a series of catch basins in the back portion of the guest house (eastern
property line). Where the small ponding occurs, it will be graded out into a very gradual swale.
He further discussed the landscape plan. Commissioner Schreiner would like to see more
proposed landscaping.
CLOSED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
Commissioner Finn's only concern was regarding grading which has been addressed. He did
not feel they should penalize the applicant for existing paving in the setback. He also provided
4 a brief history regarding previous pathway requests involving cul-de-sacs in this area.
Commissioner Schreiner understood the applicant's concerns. However, they are allowed to
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request construction of a Type IIB path on this type of application. She was more concerned
with the parking, preferring to allow the applicant to stay with his present configuration rather
than adding a large block of concrete. Ms. Manca stated the Fire Department will be able to
access the house and the second unit from Manuella Road provided by the pathway shown on
the plan. Commissioner Jinkerson agreed with Commissioner Schreiner regarding the need to
take paths where appropriate. It is important to the community. He also preferred the current
driveway configuration. Commissioner Stutz discussed the Type IIB pathway request
suggesting an in -lieu fee instead. She also suggested adding to condition #15, if the pathway is
installed, the applicant should investigate the possibility of locating the pathway adjacent to the
property line to allow for planting between the edge of the road and the pathway.
Commissioner Cheng agreed with Commissioner Stutz regarding driveway configuration and an
in -lieu fee. Commissioner Gottlieb prefers the construction of a Type IIB path. She would also
like to see the guest house relocated and heavily screened. She would not want to see three
structures all in a row (should angle). The assistant engineer noted that the driveway must be
roughened where the pathway intersects the driveway. Commissioner Finn felt the structures
would not appear to be ina row.
Mr. Hofing preferred the in -lieu fees otherwise there will be 100 feet of path where there will
never be another path.
MOTION SECONDED, AMENDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Jinkerson,
seconded by Commissioner Finn, and amended to approve the Site Development Permit for a
secondary dwelling unit, Lands of Holing, with the recommended conditions of approval, adding
to condition #15, the driveway must be roughened where the pathway intersects the driveway.
Also, the applicant should investigate the possibility of locating the pathway adjacent to the
property line to allow for planting between the edge of the road and the pathway; and accepting
the present driveway configuration.
AYES: Vice -Chair Gottlieb, Commissioners Finn, Schreiner & Jinkerson
NOES: Commissioners Stutz & Cheng
ABSENT: Chairman Doran
This item will be on the City Council consent calendar April 2, 1997.
4.2 LANDS OF ADDISON, 27863 Black Mountain Road (218-96-ZP-SD); A
request for a Site Development Permit for a new residence.
Ms. Manca introduced this item noting the receipt of a letter from Boris Petrovchich, a neighbor
expressing concerns regarding drainage as it relates to his property.
Commissioner Schreiner disclosed she had spoken, in length, to a neighbor who provided some
history of the property which included a previous problem with drainage and the location of the
leach lines. Ms. Marna explained a previous applicant had difficulty locating an acceptable area
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4 for the leach lines. Ultimately, they found a location which was approved by the Health
Department. She also noted that the current plan has been pre -approved by the Health
Department. Commissioner Gottlieb disclosed she had also spoken to a neighbor at length.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Steve Borlick, 261 Hamilton Avenue, Palo Alto, project architect, felt the staff report was
thorough and the project was consistent with the ordinances. They had an informal meeting
where they invited the neighbors to review the plans and express any concerns. They also met
with Planning and Engineering which determined some changes to the plan. They are within the
MDA/MFA, height limits and setbacks. Sensitive issues relating to the property were views and
the second story bulk. He noted two-thirds of the house is the first floor. He further discussed
the house design, the single story roof element, only 32 feet of ridgeline running along 26 feet in
height, other two story houses in the area, and the need for the septic system to be below the
house. The portion of the house closest to the street is single story. He felt they have done
everything they could to preserve views from other properties and still take advantage of the
views they have. The length of the driveway is a factor in the placement of the house.
Commissioner Jinkerson referred to page 2, paragraph 4, of the staff report. Mr. Borlick
indicated he would be willing to reduce the roof to a 4:12 pitch, however he was concerned with
lowering the house further on the building pad because the floor level will start to go below
natural grade. This will generate more grading and the possible need for a retaining wall along
the driveway, potentially creating some drainage concerns. He did feel drainage concerns could
be worked out. Commissioner Jinkerson asked if he preferred to change the pitch of the roof and
lower the house 2 feet rather than moving some of the second story to the first story. Mr. Borlick
responded yes. The Punning Director noted staff suggestion was not to change the driveway so
much for the garage elevation, but to change the house elevation.
Commissioner Schreiner had the opportunity to view the project from inside neighboring homes.
She did not feel simply lowering the roof would help. She suggested the applicant view the
project from the neighboring homes. She asked if they could site the house closer to Black
Mountain. Mr. Borlick responded yes, although Commissioner Gottlieb felt the move would
impact the view corridor. Commissioner Schreiner asked if a shared driveway was ever
considered, and she questioned the 48 foot fire apparatus turnaround area. Further discussion
ensued regarding Fire Department requirements and 4,300 square feet of driveway.
Commissioner Gottlieb asked if they could move any of the driveway out of the setback. Mr.
Borlick stated they could look at the possibility of moving in the approach of the driveway.
Shawn Addison, P. O. Box 39, Menlo Park, applicant, commented on the following: the leach
line issue and the Health Department approval; drainage capacity not a problem; December 13
meeting with only one set of neighbors attending; two other two story houses in the area; set the
4W house down 2 feet from previous design; preferred proposed roof pitch but would lower it, if
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needed; the Environmental Design Committee report; and the neighbors not wanting screening
along the driveway.
Todd Wagner, 27891 Black Mountain Road, next door neighbor, commented on the following;
surprised the property passed the percolation test; no other two story structures obstructing their
view; structure blocking the Burnells view; asked if they could tum the house; concerned with
drainage as a tremendous amount of water crosses the lot on a rainy day; and, the house will be
built on the highest point on the lot.
Richard Simko, 27861 Black Mountain Road, had no problem with construction as proposed.
He presented a letter of concern from Mr. and Mrs. Burnell (27911 Black Mountain Road) who
were unable to attend the meeting. He was concerned with drainage on this property, and in
general on Black Mountain Road.
Sara Wagner, 27891 Black Mountain Road, next door neighbor, noted when they first reviewed
the plans the large amount of concrete was not indicated. If this is a requirement, she would
request some shrubbery in that area. Their view is totally obstructed from the driveway,
moderately obstructed from the second floor, and the top floor is okay. She would not be in
interested in a shared driveway.
Mr. Borlick noted they did not take into consideration views from ground level. They are willing
4W to work with the Wagners. He further discussed split level designs and the opposition to them by
buyers.
Shawn Addison, stated the last lot to be built is always the most difficult. No matter where they
site the house, it will impact someone.
CLOSED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
Commissioner Jinkerson noted stepped down houses are encouraged under certain settings.
More thought should be given to bringing this house down. It appears the neighbors are looking
for more of a reduction than 4 feet. Perhaps this design is not appropriate for this lot. Even
though the Health Department and Engineering have reviewed the plans, there are still concerns.
He suggested the possibility of sharing a portion of the driveway. He was also concerned with
the 4,300 square feet of driveway required by the Fire Department. Commissioner Cheng would
like to see the house reduced by at least 4 feet, and the drainage needs to be solved. She felt a
step down house would be more appropriate for this lot, and she did not like shared driveways.
Commissioner Finn agreed with staff to direct the applicant to reduce the two story elements. He
agreed with a reduction of 4 feet. If you step the house, the view would still be blocked.
Another concern was the possible mass of the Porte cochre. He was not in favor of shared
driveways. The Planning Director noted they do not have the authority to ask the Wagners to
share a driveway.
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Commissioner Schreiner would like the applicant to review the site again from the affected
homes with staff, so they can come to some an agreement. She also felt the center element was
imposing and presented a view block. Commissioner Stutz was concerned with the driveway.
She suggested a large turnaround area in the center of a cell -block material. She further
discussed shared driveways, view corridors, and views lost. She would like to make sure if there
was a reduction of 4 feet or if the house was moved, it would actually open up a view. She did
not like the appearance of the front element. Commissioner Gottlieb suggested lowering the
house, and a step down element. She was also concerned with the drainage issues on this
property and on Black Mountain Road. She would like to make sure the lower property is not
impacted by drainage. She would also like the driveway moved out of the setback as much as
possible.
The Planning Director stated the architect had addressed the placement of the house (on a flatter
portion of the property and the septic system placement). He also noted there was not much
opportunity to step this house as there is only a 3 foot fall from the upper side to the lower side.
He felt staff could work with the Fire Department regarding the turnaround area to try to reduce
some of the pavement and use a different material as Commissioner Stutz suggested. Staff
recommendation to lower the house was to reduce the profile. The assistant engineer discussed
the drainage history on the property and on Black Mountain Road. They will be working with
the applicant's engineer to address the concerns. Commissioner Schreiner felt a pathway
4 dedication should be requested to., a connection to Elena Road
MOTION SECONDED AND FAILED: Motion by Commissioner Jinkerson, seconded by
Commissioner Gottlieb and failed by the following roll call vote, to continue the request for a
Site Development Permit for a new residence, for redesign, Lands of Addison, with the following
recommendations: redesign driveway to reduce amount of pavement within the setback, reduce
the height of the two story element; lowering the roof line by 2 feet; review placing more of the
second story on the first floor, and reduce massiveness of the front entrance.
AYES:
Vice -Chair Gottlieb, Commissioners Schreiner & Jinkerson
NOES:
Commissioners Cheng, Firm & Stutz
ABSENT:
Chairman Doran
MOTION SECONDED, AMENDED AND FAILED: Motion by Commissioner Finn, seconded
by Commissioner Cheng, amended and failed by the following roll call vote, to approve the
request for a Site Development Permit for a new residence, Lands of Addison, with the following
additions/changes to the conditions of approval: reduce the roof pitch to 4:12; reduce the
finished floor by 2 feet; direct staff to work with the Fire Department and the applicant to
minimize the driveway, and if possible, use grass cell to reduce the impact of the substantial area
required by the Fire Department; add to condition #2 to avoid planting trees which will block
views; pathway dedication but not constructed; and staff to work with the applicant and the
neighbors to minimize the massing of the front exterior of the house.
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4 AYES: Commissioners Stutz, Cheng & Finn
NOES: Vice -Chair Gottlieb, Commissioners Schreiner & Jinkerson
ABSENT: Chairman Doran
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Cheng and seconded by
Commissioner Jinkerson to continue the request for a Site Development Permit, Lands of
Addison, to March 26, 1997.
AYES: Commissioners Schreiner, Jinkerson & Cheng
NOES: Commissioners Finn & Stutz
ABSTAIN: Vice -Chair Gottlieb
ABSENT: Chairman Doran
Brief break at 9:55 p.m.
4.3 LANDS OF WU & CHEN, 26998 Beaver Lane (205-96-ZP-SD-GD); A request
for a Site Development Permit for a major addition and remodel.
The Planning Director stated staking and story poles were not in place in a timely manner. The
story poles are required so the Planning Commission and neighbors can better visualize the siting
of the structure on the site, the bulk and mass of the structure, and the differing and maximum
SII heights of the structure being proposed.
PASSED BY CONSENSUS: To continue the application to the March 26' meeting to allow the
applicant to adequately place the story poles on the site for public view.
4.4 LANDS OF LOHR, 12117 Oak Park Court (lot 6) (3-97-ZP-SD-GD); A request
for a Site Development Permit for a new residence, pool and spa.
Ms. Davis introduced this item noting the receipt of a revised Sheet 7 indicating 4 proposed
skylights (condition #5 will be revised). Also, the applicant has agreed with the landscape
recommendations (#2). The Planning Director stated the City Council has discussed exterior
materials for the Stonebrook subdivision. They felt comfortable the applicant was responding to
their requests. Commissioner Gottlieb asked if the house could be moved or angled so it will not
be parallel with the house on Lot 7. This would also provide a sound barrier for the pool area.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Steve Lohr, 586 Lagunita Drive, Stanford, applicant, discussed the siting of the house noting Lot
5 is a pie shaped lot, Lot 7 has a 60 foot setback and Lot 6 has a 70 foot setback. He had spoken
to the buyers regarding angling the house but they were not agreeable to the change.
Commissioner Finn suggested more variation in roof pitch for the remaining homes to be built in
the subdivision. Mr. Lohr noted they could do a high pitch roof on Lot 5 or Lot 22.
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CLOSED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
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Commissioner Gottlieb was concerned with the lack of landscaping in the front and driveway
backup area.
Commissioner Schreiner liked the materials proposed, however would prefer the landscape plan
to be reviewed at the Site Development hearing.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Finn and seconded by
Commissioner Schreiner to approve the Site Development Permit for a new residence, pool and
spa, Lands of Lohr, with the recommended conditions of approval, modifying condition #2 to
include screening around the driveway, and condition #5, deleting "if utilized".
AYES: Vice -Chair Gottlieb, Commissioners Jinkerson, Stutz, Schreiner & Finn
NOES: None
ABSENT: Chairman Doran and Commissioner Cheng (left at 10:00 p.m.)
This item will appear on the City Council consent calendar April 2, 1997.
Q 4.5 LANDS OF LOHR, 24036 Oak Knoll Circle (lot 15) (214-96-ZP-SD-GD); A
kr' request for a Site Development Permit for a new residence.
Staff had nothing further to add to the staff report.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Steve Lohr, 586 Lagunita Drive, Stanford, applicant, designed the house for a particular buyer.
There will only be a small portion of the house visible from the street. They have angled the
house to take advantage of the views and to minimize impacts on neighbors. Commissioner
Schreiner asked if they had considered designing the driveway differently. Mr. Lohr responded
yes, although if the driveway was on the opposite side, it would impact the Scotts on Lot 16 and
the Kaplans on Dawson Drive.
CLOSED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
Commissioner Finn would like to see more uniqueness in the remaining lot development within
the subdivision. Commissioner Gottlieb was concerned with both the driveway backup and the
patio encroaching into the setback. Commissioner Stutz did not like the height of front entry. It
was suggested to drop the entry to line up with the roof hips.
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MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Stutz and seconded by
Commissioner Jinkerson to approve the request for a Site Development Permit for a new
residence, Lands of Lohr, with the following changes to the recommended conditions of
approval: lower front facade entry to the same height as the ends of the house.
AYES:
Vice -Chair Gottlieb, Commissioners Schreiner, Stutz, Jinkerson & Finn
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
Chairman Doran and Commissioner Cheng (left at 10:00 p.m.)
This item will appear on the City Council consent calendar April 2, 1997.
4.6 LANDS OF FINN, 12000 Finn Lane (183-96-ZP-SD-VAR); A request for a Site
Development Permit for an accessory building, and a variance to exceed the
allowable floor area for the property.
Commissioner Finn, as the applicant of the proposed project, stepped down from the public
hearing process. Ms. Davis introduced this item noting the receipt of letters from three
neighbors in support of the project. Also, she noted the slope density calculations for the site
were redone by the project landscape architect and herself. The maximum development and
floor area numbers are actually higher than stated in the staff report. The result of the revised
numbers is that the requested variance is to exceed the allowable floor area by 101 square feet
rather than the 431 square feet originally indicated. The maximum development and floor area
figures for Lot 2 are as follows: maximum development area 15,300 (approximately 2,100
square feet remaining), maximum floor area 6,120 square feet (approximately 3,300+ square
feet remaining). Staff had spoken to the applicant regarding the possibility of restricting the Lot
2 to compensate for the overage on Lot I since they are commonly owned. Also, the building
will be the same size as the original school house with a 12:12 roof pitch (rather than the
original 8 %,: 12) to match the carriage house.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Steve Finn, 12000 Firm Lane, applicant, was agreeable to the recorded deed restriction
regarding deducting the 101 square feet of floor area from Lot 2. The original school house
elevation was the same as the carriage house with horizontal siding and a shingle roof. The
architect has added cobble stone and an arbor. The roofing material will be slate to match the
other buildings on the property. If the Commission prefers, he could remove the veneer off the
building to maintain the original horizontal siding. He discussed the other possible areas for
placement although he did not feel it would fit well elsewhere.
John Russell, 12120 Edgecliff Place, downhill neighbor, questioned the drainage from the
project. The Assistant Engineer discussed the proposed sheet flow across the property, across
the path to Prospect Avenue where it would go downhill to an existing storm drain. Condition
#10 addresses drainage.
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CLOSED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
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Commissioner Cheng was in support of the project as it is an historical site placed in a good
location. Commissioner Schreiner was concerned with the location on a steep slope and the
possible impact on several oak trees. She was having difficulty making the first variance
finding. Commissioner Stutz supported the project as it is nested in and she did not feel it
would impact the trees. Commissioner Jinkerson disclosed he viewed the property from the
pathway only. He did not feel the structure was nestled although it will not be visible to the
neighbors. There is much MDA/MFA left for the property as a whole. The proposed structure
certainly will be more attractive than a normal school house. He supported the project, noting
with the footage being ;educed to 101 square feet, he can make the findings to grant a variance.
Commissioner Gottlieb stated if the historical nature was preserve by using the original siding
and possibly using the original roof pitch, she could support the findings for the variance.
MOTION SECONDED AND APPROVED: Motion by Commissioner Schreiner and seconded
by Commissioner Jinkerson to approve the Site Development Permit for an accessory building,
and a variance to exceed the allowable floor area for the property, with the following
additions/changes to the conditions of approval: the roof pitch and siding shall be changed to
match the original school house elements; and add to condition #9 that a property restriction to
be recorded for Lot 2 (12002 Finn Lane) stating the maximum floor area for the property is
reduced by 101 square feet (6,019 square feet) due to the floor area on Lot 1 exceeding the
maximum by this amount. The variance findings will include the additional wording.
AYES: Vice -Chair Gottlieb, Commissioners Stutz, Jinkerson, Cheng & Schreiner
NOES: None
ABSENT: Chairman Doran
This item will appear of the City Council consent calendar April 2, 1997.
5. REPORT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
5.1 Planning Commission Representative for March 5• Commissioner Schreiner,
reported on the following items: appointment to Environmental Design and
Protection Committee; discussion of exterior materials for Stonebrook
Subdivision; and request for relief of improvement costs, Rogez Subdivision..
5.2 Planning Commission Representative for Mach 19' - Chairman Doran.
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6. OLD BUSINESS
6.1 Report from subcommittees. Commissioner Jinkerson reported on the
Communications Subcommittee and their discussion regarding ways to
communicate to the community.
7. NEW BUSINESS
The Planning Director noted a change to the building envelope staking and story poles
handout sheet since there appears to be a problem with erecting story poles in a timely
manner. In the future, the applicants will be requested to erect the poles prior to noticing
the project for public hearing.
8. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
8.1 Approval of the February 26, 1997 minutes.
PASSED BY CONSENSUS: To approve the February 26, 1997 minutes.
9. REPORT FROM THE SITE DEVELOPMENT HEARING OF MARCH 11, 1997
4W 9.1 LANDS OF SEILHAMER & MENG, 12555 La Cresta Drive; A request for a
Site Development Permit to elevate the roofline by 5 feet in height. Approved
with conditions.
10. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned by consensus at 10:50 p.m..
Respectfully s'ubbymiittttee/d,, //�.
Lam"Lonberge��r
Planning Secretary