HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/10/1998Minutes of an Adjourned Regular Meeting
February 10, 1998
Town of Los Altos Hills
City Council and Planning Commission
Adjourned Regular Meeting
Tuesday, February 10, 1998, 6:00 P.M.
Council Chambers, 26379 Fremont Road
A. Call To Order and Roll Call
Mayor Casey called the Adjourned Regular Meeting of the City Council and Planning
Commission to order at 6:05 p.m. in the Council Chambers at Town Hall.
Present: Mayor Casey and Councilmembers Dauber, Hubbard, Johnson
1. Height of Residence
2. Height of Entry
3. Architectural Features (chimneys, towers)
4. Skylights and Windows
C. Sensitivity to and Interaction with Applicants at Meetings
D. Policy Issues
1.
and Siegel
Staff:
City Manager/City Engineer Jeff Peterson, Planning Director
3.
Curtis Williams, Assistant Planner Suzanne Davis and City
4.
Clerk Pat Dowd
Press:
Carol Tiegs, Los Altos Town Crier
Planning
Chairman Carol Gottlieb and Commissioners Aurelio, Cheng,
Commission
and Jinkerson
B. Scope of Planning Commission Review (Level of Detail):
1. Height of Residence
2. Height of Entry
3. Architectural Features (chimneys, towers)
4. Skylights and Windows
C. Sensitivity to and Interaction with Applicants at Meetings
D. Policy Issues
1.
Backup/turnaround areas
2.
Secondary dwellings - basements, height, driveway access, garages, patios
3.
Basement definition - backfilling, daylighting, lightwells and stairways, patios
4.
Definitions of "three story facade" and "single story"
5.
Development on and definition of "ridgelines"
6.
"Challenged" lots - how to address them early in process
7.
Requiring two car garages
8.
Counting carports as floor area
9.
Height measurement re: basements, pad/crawl space
10.
Enforcement of conditions of approval
11.
More strict application of Design Guidelines to protect "rural" character
12.
Town removal of trees in right-of-way
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Planting in road right-of-way
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The Planning Director reported that at the 10/29/97 Joint Meeting the Council and Planning
Commission had discussed up to Item DA on the agenda. This meeting was a continuation of
that discussion.
Casey referred to the Lands of Godino and believed it was wrong of the Planning Commission
to change the ordinance regarding chimneys as it related to this project. Gottlieb stated that the
chimney was larger on the second set of plans that the Planning Commission reviewed and it
blocked the view of the neighbors. Siegel stated that chimneys should be the height required by
the building code and not excessive obtrusive heights. Hubbard stated that the reasons for
design changes should be reflected in the minutes of the meeting.
Council and Planning Commission addressed the issues of three story facades and single stories.
Gottlieb commented that three story was permitted as long as the house was stepped down and
did not look like three stories. The goal was to reduce the bulk and mass of the project. Casey
recommended that applicants go through site analysis before they begin their project to avoid
disappointment. Siegel suggested that the Commission and staff arrive at specific numbers for
height limitations for highly visible lots, i.e. a single story house shall not exceed in
height. Casey thought it would be difficult to define `a highly visible lot' and Dauber believed a
definition was needed for how the attic area was counted.
On the subject of `challenged lots' it was noted that currently the allowed development was
limited to the point where variances were often requested. The Planning Director commented
that more often than not these projects were the best designed because the owners and designers
had to work within a more difficult framework. Jinkerson believed that the requirement for a
fourteen foot wide driveway negatively impacted the available outdoor living areas. Dauber
commented that grass crete could be used for the required fourteen foot turnarounds for fire
safety and grass crete did not count toward development area. Council agreed that the Planning
Director should bring a recommendation back to the Commission and Council on allowed
development for challenged lots.
The issue of carports and garages was discussed. Dauber noted that currently carports were not
counted as floor area but garages were. Siegel however did not think the Town should be
encouraging carports. Jinkerson believed that garages were better but did not think that carports
should be prohibited. It was agreed that staff should bring a recommendation back to the
Commission and Council on carports and garages and how they could be more equitably
counted as development/floor area in a project.
Tim Chown, 13822 Page Mill Road, referred to the issue of `challenged lots' and did not believe
the development area for these lots should be increased. Anyone purchasing such a lot would be
advised of the limitations of these lots.
Bill Maston, William Maston Architect and Associates, commented that in Portola Valley a
subdivision was requiring carports but this decision was recently changed because it was felt
they were unsightly and reduced the property value.
Robert Molinari, 12133 Foothill Lane, believed applicants should be given a choice between
carports and garages. He also wondered if the Council and the Commission represented the
opinion of the majority of residents. It seemed they were expressing their own opinions.
Latta Carsten, 13761 La Paloma, did not concur with requiring two car garages.
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Valerie Chown, 13822 Page Mill Road, did not concur with the direction of encouraging those
using all of their development area to come back for variances. She further believed the Council
and the Commission were responsible for upholding the Site Development Policy and Design
Guidelines to the best of their ability.
Kamin Lee, 26799 Elena Road, believed there would be less confusion if the rules were clearly
stated and discretionary decisions by the Council and Commission were not permitted.
Ralph Vetterlein, 26035 Todd Lane, believed that the Town should be working on harmony and
understanding rather than divided fronts. He commented on the 1996 election which had a very
high voter turnout. Mr. Vetterlein noted that everyone in Town had property values and rights.
Sandy Humphries, 26238 Fremont Road, noted that Council was overturning the decisions of
the Planning Commission and there was a lack of communication between the two groups. It
appeared that if an applicant did not like what the Planning Commission said, they simply went
to Council and got the decision appealed. She believed more trust was needed.
Jinkerson believed the Town had good ordinances and guidelines and everyone was treated
equally. Hubbard referred to the effort by both the Commission and the Council to implement
the General Plan, ordinances and policies. Dauber noted that Councilmembers were elected by
a vote of the residents and during the election process the issues affecting the Town were
discussed at length. She believed it was their responsibility to review and evaluate applications
and make decisions as they deemed appropriate. Siegel commented that major issues go to a
vote of the people for a decision such as upholding the one acre minimum zoning. He noted
however that deciding on how the details of development should be handled was difficult.
Casey strongly supported the need for public input on all ordinance changes. She felt that if a
resident was not directly involved in Town Government, they had no idea what the Town's
regulations were. Therefore, she supported notification to all residents of ordinance changes.
Gottlieb believed it was important for Commissioners to be able to speak to an application at a
Council Meeting. She noted that often statements were made that did not correctly reflect what
happened at the Planning Commission Meeting and they should have an opportunity to address
these statements. Johnson reminded Gottlieb of the City Attorney's opinion on the process of
these public hearings and the inappropriateness of the Commissioners speaking to the Council at
public hearings in the role of Planning Commissioners.
E. Presentations from the Floor
F. Adjournment
There being no further new or old business to discuss, the City Council Meeting was
adjourned at 7:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Patricia Dowd
City Clerk
The minutes of the February 10, 1998 Adjourned Regular Meeting of the City Council
and Planning Commission were approved at the March 4, 1998 City Council Meeting.
February 10, 1998
Adjourned Regular Meeting
Minutes of a Regular Meeting Approved 2/25/98
Town of Los Altos Hills
PLANNING COMMISSION
Wednesday, February 11, 1998, 7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers, 26379 Fremont Road
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ROLL CALL AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Planning Commission meeting was called to order at 7:02 p.m. in the Council Chambers at
Town Hall.
Present: Chairman Gottlieb, Commissioners Schreiner, Cheng, Aurelio & Jinkerson
Staff: Curtis Williams, Planning Director; Sheryl Proft, Assistant Engineer; Suzanne
Davis, Planner; Lam Lonberger, Planning Secretary
CONSENSUS: To place an emergency item on the agenda regarding re -organization of the
Planning Commission
CONSENSUS: Motion by Commissioner Schreiner, seconded by Commissioner Jinkerson, and
passed by consensus recommending Commissioner Cheng as Vice Chair.
2. PRESENTATIONS FROM THE FLOOR -None
3. PUBLIC HEARINGS
3.1 LANDS OF CONGREGATION BETH AM, 26790 Arastradero Road (189-97-
ZP-SD-CUP-ND); Proposed Conditional Use Permit and Site Development
Permit for the construction of a 7,050 square foot multi-purpose building,
additions of 4,225 square feet of classroom and administrative buildings, and 142
new parking spaces, to an existing religious facility; and Proposed Negative
Declaration (continued from January 28, 1998).
Disclosure: Commissioner Aurelio has read the previous staff report and has listened to the tape
of the previous meeting.
The Planning Director introduced this item stating on January 28' the Commission considered
this request, and heard testimony from representatives of the applicant and from affected
` neighbors. Staff has worked very extensively with the applicant and the neighbors regarding
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\/ issues previously discussed. One major item which remains is the drainage issue. The applicants
are still evaluating the staff's proposed condition regarding improvements to the downstream
channel between the site and Fremont Road and the on-site drainage channels in proximity to the
proposed headwall to accommodate expected 100 -year flow levels and to protect against erosion,
to the satisfaction of the Engineering Department. He suggested finalizing all other issues, and
returning to the February 25' meeting to review the conditions of approval and to review the
drainage plan. Also, a letter from John and Katie Buzbee Harding was provided. He further
discussed the changes to the conditions of approval as recommended at the previous meeting
noting a requested change to #7 by Mr. Erzberger removing "6:00 p.m." and to #9 delete "except
for religious services or ceremonies" and adding "for social events": after the word "music."
Regarding #12, it was suggested adding wording to minimize the honking of homs. Mr.
Erzberger had stated to the Planning Director that he would not object to the addition of gates in
the fence (Site Development condition #8), working with the neighbors regarding location. Also,
the statement in the conditions of approval regarding the payment of school fees does not apply
to this application and shall be deleted. He further clarified, after a discussion with the City
Attorney, regarding congregation membership, that while the Town may regulate the use of the
site with a variety of standards, conditions of approval may not limit the membership of the
congregation, in this case, since membership alone does not relate to impacts of the site.
Commissioner Schreiner discussed Use Permit condition #11, suggesting adding wording stating
4 that once the 200 parking spaces have been used, there should be no parking on adjacent streets,
suggesting the use of a shuttle. Commissioner Cheng suggested valet parking for large events.
The Planning Director suggested for lager events, the applicant shall provide a plan indicating
how they will handle overflow parking which can include valet parking, off site shuttle service,
or parking at the office building across the street. This will help keep cars off the neighboring
streets.
Commissioner Jinkerson felt it would be harder to enforce appropriate parking with a gate in the
fence which will attract neighborhood parking. He suggested changes to the Use Permit
condition #4, deleting "such as" replacing it with "including". Also, to delete the word "etc."
Condition #10, to include half hour past the end of an event rather than having the parking lights
turned off by not later than 11:00 p.m. or past the close of an event, for safety.
Commissioner Schreiner would like the lighting plan reviewed and approved by the Planning
Commission as she felt this was one of the most critical issues on this site.
The Planning Director clarified all the items which will be reviewed prior to accepting plans for
building plan check.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
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Richard Block, Rabbi, Congregation Beth Am, addressed conditions #4 (would prefer not using
the word "traditional"), 6, 7 (leave in 6:00 p.m.), 9, 11, and 12 (keep "make all reasonable efforts
to"). He felt parking on neighborhood streets during large events have never been a concern. He
has no opinion regarding a gate in the fence and any potential parking problems.
Katie Buzbee Harding, 27201 Fremont Road, discussed her letter dated February 6' regarding
drainage, concerns with lights shining into her bedroom and bathroom, and the possibility of
replacing the eucalyptus trees with some pine trees.
Bob Blair, new owner at 27161 Fremont Road, did not receive a notice, but asked that the visual
impact and screening be mitigated. Otherwise he had no problem with the project.
Steve Choong, 13481 Thendara Lane, requested no outdoor sound amplification in the evening
(conditions 46 and 9) for social events.
Art Jones, 13481 Thendam Lane, stated a concern with the lighting as it should be facing in
toward the parking area and should not impact the neighbors. Also, currently the lights go off at
1:00 a.m. This should be corrected now. He did not feel the fence should stop 75 feet from the
end of the property line. It should be carried to the end of the property. This area is being used as
a short cut, with the oleanders being trampled. The fence extension could be chain link. He
would like to see events end at 11:00 p.m. to provide people and caterers time to leave. Parking
and the flow of traffic will impact him with the proposed loop. He asked if they could come in
one side and exit another. He has had only one experience in 15 years regarding street parking.
He had no opinion regarding a proposed gate.
Heinz Erzbergey 13457 Thendam Lane, discussed the following: conditions #6 (closing of
activities at 11:00 p.m.); #7 (removal of 6:00 p.m. and extending the events to three per week);
parking; the request for a gate close to the garden shed area with a lock, if needed; and a concern
with new parking lot and the possible impact of the new circulation of traffic. He would like to
review the circulation of traffic in one year. He stated the current Beth Am leadership was very
sensitive to the neighbors and their problems. He hoped this would remain if the leadership
changes. He further discussed the accumulative effect of the different types of noises with
several events taking place on the site. He agreed with the suggestion to extend the fence beyond
the 75 feet from the end of the property line with perhaps a chain link fence. Commissioner
Jinkerson felt a gate would propose a problem with foot traffic, and who would keep the key if
the gate is locked.
Francis Liu, 27241 Fremont Road, discussed drainage issues as they related to her property
which is on the corner of Fremont Road and Arastradem Road. They get everyone's water. She
provided sketches of the impact on her property after Monday's storm.
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4W The assistant engineer stated she and the City Engineer had visited this site Tuesday. They have
been reviewing the swale from the Beth Am property and from the neighboring property. Beth
Am is reviewing the drainage swale although they want to review their options at this time. The
Planning Director stated there were two options under consideration: (1) improving the drainage
swale which would require easements from the various neighbors; or (2) construct a detention
basin on their property to hold the water back and release it at a slower rate.
Robert Block reviewed the previous comments noting the following: no objection to a gate and
lock; agreed with the change to condition #7; preferred #6 as drafted; and #9, rare occasion for
outdoor music sound amplification on the patio area. The area of concern is the far side of the
property which would require some amplification and music (outdoor sanctuary) and should not
affect neighbors. He continued requesting the wording in #12 (make all reasonable efforts to
minimize impacts...) remain. He clarified that no one lives on the site.
Alex Vayntmb, 27067 Horseshoe Lane, voiced support of the project stating a good neighbor
relationship should be encouraged by communication.
CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING
The Planning Director suggested a discussion and consensus on the conditions needing
modification, returning February 25' with the conditions in their final form along with the
drainage issues to review. Currently it is not known what effect a detention basin would have on
parking spaces or construction. Discussion and changes to the conditions of approval ensued.
Conditions of approval, Use Permit: #4; new 94, remove "etc." and replace "such as" with
"including"; #6, add, "and not later than 11:30 p.m. on Friday and Saturday, a and not later than
11:00 p.m. on Sundays before a Monday Federal holiday". Also, delete "ally _u
adding "event ending"; #7, adding (not including religious services with food service "before or
"thereafter)... which ...more frequently than twice three times per
week ...; #9, add "for social events" and deleting
#10, add, "not later than 30 minutes past the slese end of an event"...; #11, add, "a parking plan
shall be submitted to the Town at least 15 working days in advance of the event, outlining means
to accommodate overflow parking (such as parking at nearby office lots, valet puking, or
shuttles from off-site, etc.) to the satisfaction of the Planning Director; #12, and add "and
honking of horns from vehicles at drop-off and pick-up points". Conditions of approval, Site
Development Permit: #2, add, a final landscape screening plan shall be submitted for review by
the Planning Commission, with particular emphasis on screening the Plamiiag PepaFtment shall
between the new parking
areas and the western property boundary, (adding) and between the new buildings and the eastern
property boundary; 96, review by Planning Commission m a Site Pm,alapmea4 ileaFiffg; #8, add,
"50" to 75 feet... with an open wood and wire mesh fence or a similar open fence from that point
to the front property line, to the satisfaction of the Planning Director. Gates from Thendara Lane
to the site may also be permitted; and deleting requirement to pay school district fees. Findings
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for approval: add to #4, that most of the existing parking spaces which encroach into setbacks
will be relocated to conform with setback requirements.
PASSED BY CONSENSUS: Motion by Commissioner Schreiner, seconded by Commissioner
Jinkerson, and passed by consensus to continue the proposed Conditional Use Permit and Site
Development Permit for the construction of a 7,050 square foot multipurpose building, additions
of 4,225 square feet of classroom and administrative buildings, and 142 new parking spaces, to
an existing religious facility; and Proposed Negative Declaration, Lands of Beth Am, to February
25", directing staff to return with changes to the conditions as previously noted, and with a
proposed resolution to drainage issue for review.
AYES: Chairman Gottlieb, Commissioners Cheng, Aurelio, Schreiner & Ankerson
NOES: None
Brief break at 8:50 p.m.
3.2 LANDS OF CHAN, 12125 Oak Park Court (lot 8a) (251-97-ZP-SD-GD); A
request for a Site Development Permit for a new residence and pool.
Ms. Davis introduced this item by discussing the constraints affecting the house location.
Chairman Gottlieb voiced concern regarding two driveways within 20 feet from each other and
` three homes appearing to line up.
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Norm Burdick, P. O. Box 517, Los Altos, project architect, voiced no objections to the
conditions of approval. He stated that the house could be adjusted some and noted that the
driveway would be adjacent to the driveway on lot 7. It was noted that the lots have limited
building area due to easements.
Les Earnest, Pathway Committee, noted the retention basin in the lower portion of the property
and a drainage ditch going across the 30 foot pathway easement where they are planning to build
a bike path. He would like to make sure there is enough for a bike path built to California State
standards room (minimum 12 feet).
Fred Fallah, 12374 Priscilla Lane, would not want the house shifted too far back as it would
impact his property. He further questioned condition #20 as it relates to his property.
CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING
Commissioner Cheng had no problems with the project as submitted and she would agree with
moving the house back. Commissioner Schreiner would like the house moved back
4W approximately 20 feet to provide an area for landscaping between the two houses which would
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also move some of the driveway out of the setback. Chairman Gottlieb would like the applicants
to work with staff to move the house back so the house is off -set from the two houses under
construction which would also reduce the pavement in the setback. She would like the house
moved at least 10 feet. Commissioner Aurelio agreed with the comments. Commissioner
Jinkerson discussed the exterior lighting requesting a reduction of two lights as noted in the staff
report. He does not want the houses lined up, suggesting a move up to 25 feet. The assistant
engineer suggested the pathway be staked for review by the City Engineer and Pathway
Committee to make sure there is adequate space for the 12 foot pathway, to the satisfaction of the
City Engineer. An additional condition should be added indicating if any additional easement is
needed to accommodate a 12 foot wide bike path, it shall be granted prior to acceptance of plans
for building plan check.
Commissioner Cheng stated she would support the project even if the house was not moved.
Commissioner Aurelio questioned condition #3, regarding the amount required for landscape
deposit. Ms. Davis provided additional information.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Jinkerson and seconded by
Commissioner Schreiner to approve the Site Development Permit for a new residence and pool,
Lands of Chan, with the following additions/changes to the conditions of approval: work with
staff to set the house back an additional 10 to 25 feet to break up similar setbacks with other
homes nearby and to allow more space for landscaping between properties (lots 8a and 7),
6 getting more paving out of the setback; and add a pathway condition indicating if any additional
easement is needed to accommodate a 12 foot wide bike path, it shall be granted prior to
acceptance of plans for building plan check.
AYES: Chairman Gottlieb, Commissioners Schreiner, Jinkerson, Aurelio & Cheng
NOES: None
This item will appear on the City Council consent calendar March 4, 1998.
3.3 LANDS OF CHANG, 12025 Adobe Creek Lodge Road (264-97-ZP-SD-GD); A
request for a Site Development Permit for a new residence, cabana, pool and spa.
Staff had nothing further to add to the staff report.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Michael Moyer, 430 Sherman Avenue, Palo Alto, project architect, discussed the architectural
character noting the massing was very carefully studied. The second story element has single
story expressions around the front, rear, and side to help reduce the scale of the two story portion.
They have also introduced horizontal elements to help create a lower sense of scale rather than
vertical elements which would add to its height along with other design elements such as the
dormers, the hip roofs, the chimneys, and balconies which add character.. He provided a
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4 rendering of the project for review indicating the choice of colors in accordance with the Town
adopted color board. Patina will be added to the copper roof.
With regards to the roof on the 900 square foot pavilion, Commissioner Schreiner mentioned a
previous applicant (Lands of Wilson) who had used a dark material in their skylight which had a
10% reflectivity value, asking if the applicant could use this type of material for the roof. Ms.
Davis noted that the material was plastic and she was not sure if it could be used as a roofing
material. Mr. Moyer stated he would be happy to comply with the objective of trying to reduce
the amount of reflectivity as much as possible.
Commissioner Jinkerson felt the roofing material, whether it be conventional or glass, should
comply with Town ordinance regarding reflectivity. Mr. Moyer stated that they are not intending
to use a reflective glazing material.
Les Eamst, Pathway Chair, asked for clarification regarding the path (#21) on Moody Road.
Their intention was to have the path at the toe of the slope adjacent to Moody Road on the
natural bench along the creek.
Sandy Humphries, Environmental Design Committee requested the large trees close to the
Adobe Creek be protected during construction.
4 CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING
Commissioner Jinkerson reviewed the April, 1997 application (Lands of LaJoy) which he did
not support. The new proposed house is 1,000 square feet larger than previous design, with three
separate driveways. The chimneys should be minimum height to meet UBC requirements. This
is a highly visible lot and the floor area numbers have been maximized. The pavilion is 900
square feet with a high reflectivity roofing material which will be seen from Byme Preserve.
Commissioner Aurelio felt the architectural details mitigate the size. Many homes in this
subdivision are quite large. He was interested in the size relative to others in the area and if the
plans are acceptable to the neighbors, he would have no objections. Commissioner Cheng agreed
noting some houses in the area are even bigger and there has been no neighbors opposing the
project.
Commissioner Schreiner stated when she first looked at the design, she thought it was a very
massive, bulky house (visible). When looking at the rendering with the use of the material and
the colors, it will be a very big house, but much effort has made to set it into the site. She still
had two major concerns. The first concern was with, a 900 square foot structure with a glass roof
where light reflects at night. Since this is a rural area, the pavilion should have a standard type
roof. The second concerned the circular driveway with an extra access off of the cul-de-sac. She
felt this would set up a very unfavorable precedent. This house could be very well served by
having an access coming in further down the comer, and just splitting it so the side and front
40 areas are accommodated. This will open up the front to possible screening of the house which is
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very much needed. She was in favor of removing the circular driveway, having one access,
bringing it to the side, and to the front. Or at the very most, if they need a circular driveway
which is allowed, in some way make it wider and swing out. She was also concerned with the
amount of pavement in setbacks which is generated by three access points. She would prefer a
change in the driveway design.
Chairman Gottlieb did not oppose circular driveways but she was also concerned with the three
point access and extra parking in the setback. She felt the pool pavilion will create glare from the
sun reflecting during the day and from lights reflecting at night. She asked the Planning Director
if there was any way to put a driveway in to service both accesses. He responded there was a
way but he did not know if it would reduce the amount of pavement or be a better design solution
than the one before them. In this instance, they need to look at where the pavement is especially
the pavement around new the garage which is adjacent to a cul-de-sac which has very little traffic
(very little impact). The circular driveway will not be a safety concern. The parking portions
should be out of the setback. His suggestion regarding the pavilion would be to give the
applicant the option of a regular roof or finding a glass material that is less than 50% reflectivity.
Staff would make a determination based on color and/or tint. Further discussion ensued
regarding glass material and reflectivity value.
Commissioner Schreiner was most concerned with the reduction of screening due to the
F driveways. The issue is the visibility of the house. Commissioner Jinkerson suggested two
` entrances with a walkway to the house which would reduce half of the pavement and provide for
more screening at the front. This would eliminate the front entrance. Chairman Gottlieb asked if
the circular driveway could be reduced in width as a mitigation measure. The Planning Director
noted they do not want the garage facing Adobe Creek Lodge Road so it is appropriate for the
garage to be facing the cul-de-sac but clearly this is not a good entrance for visitors. This seems
appropriate with the modification of removing the parking bay back out of the setback. The
design seems to function for the site. Chairman Gottlieb would like wording crafted indicating
that this is an unusual site thus the reason for the driveway design as she would not want to set a
precedence. Given the corner short cul-de-sac associated with the property and to keep the
garage away from Moody Road, it is appropriate to have different points for the access for the
garage and for visitors and a circular driveway is acceptable. Commissioner Schreiner was most
concerned with the amount of paving which would reduce the amount of landscaping across the
front of the house. Further discussion ensued regarding the reduction of the circular driveway
width to possibly 10 feet.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Michael Moyer, architect, stated the house is set back 65 feet from the street and there is
adequate area for landscaping. They did consider other driveway designs and felt this design
worked best although he could reduce the length of the parking area in front of the house by
approximately 15 feet. Mr. Moyer preferred a 14 foot width on the circular driveway to allow
4 vehicles to pass one another. Staff noted any reduction in width would be reviewed by the Fire
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Department. Commissioner Jinkerson did not feel driveways wide enough to pass another
vehicle was desirable. He felt the circular driveway should be minimized.
Further discussion ensued regarding the driveway design. Commissioner Schreiner stated the
reason she was so concerned was that the limit of the conservation easements and the only place
you can put landscaping is from the conservation easement up to the cul-de-sac, half of which is
covered with pavement. This house as large as it is should have screening entirely around it.
The Commission realized, due to the conservation easement, there is a limited development area.
Tom Klope, landscape architect, stated the planting in the conservation easement will screen the
project, using native species much the same as on the Wayman property.
CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING
Discussion and consensus votes on the roofing material and the circular driveway design ensued.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED BY CONSENSUS: Motion by Commissioner
Jinkerson, seconded by Commissioner Aurelio, and passed by consensus (4-0) to require the roof
for the pool pavilion be of a material that has a light reflectivity value of 40% or less, and a
sample of the material shall be approved by the Planning Department prior to acceptance of plans
for building plan check (modify condition #2).
Discussion ensued regarding the circular driveway. Commissioner Aurelio felt the circular
driveway added to the character of the house, but 14 feet was too wide, suggesting a reduction to
10 feet with the use of a material other than asphalt so it looks less like an extension of the
roadway. The length of the parking area to be reduced by 15 feet and the parking area moved out
of the setback. Commissioner Jinkerson suggested reducing the amount of paving on the
driveway off of the garage (pavement in the setback) as much as possible.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED BY CONSENSUS: Motion by Commissioner Aurelio,
seconded by Commissioner Jinkerson, and passed by consensus (4-0) requiring the following:
the circular driveway be reduced to 10 feet in width with the use of a material other than asphalt;
the length of the puking area reduced by 15 feet; parking area to be out of the setback; and
reduce the paving on the driveway off of the garage as much as possible.
Staff will review the reduction in width with the Fire Department to make sure it will be in
conformance to their standards or use grasscrete for the additional 4 feet. Commissioner Cheng
suggested 12 feet in width rather than 10 feet Commissioner Cheng stated she would still
support the project with the original circular driveway design.
Planning Commission Minutes Approved 2/25/98
February 11, 1998
Page 10
4 MOTION SECONDED, AMENDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Jinkerson,
seconded by Commissioner Aurelio, and amended to approve the Site Development Permit for a
new residence, cabana, pool and spa, Lands of Chang, with the following additions/changes to
the conditions of approval: modify condition #2 requiring the roof for the pool pavilion shall be
of a material that has a light reflectivity value of 40% or less consistent with existing reflectivity
standards, and a sample of the material shall be approved by the Planning Department prior to
acceptance of plans for building plan check; the circular driveway in front of the house shall be
no wider than 10 feet wide in a material that is consistent with the design of the house, preferably
not asphalt, providing for more open landscape screening and minimizing the pavment in the
front setback; reducing the parking area by 15 feet, moving it out of the setback; add condition
requiring tree fencing; and modify condition #21 to clarify pathway requirement to have the path
at the toe of the slope adjacent to Moody Road on the natural bench along the creek.
AYES: Chairman Gottlieb, Commissioners Schreiner, Cheng, Jinkerson & Aurelio
NOES: None
This item will appear on the City Council consent calendar March 4, 1998.
4. OLD BUSINESS
` 4.1 Report from subcommittees -none
None.
6. REPORT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
6.1 Planning Commission Representative for February 4, 1998, Commissioner
Schreiner reported on the following items: appointment to the Planning Commission; request for
a modification to the tentative map conditions of approval to exceed the allowable development
area for the lot at 28500 Matadero Creek Lane, Lands of Ruiner; and Lands of WytheNitu, lots 2
and 3.
6.2 Planning Commission Representative for February 18, 1998- Schreiner
7. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
7.1 Approval of the January 28, 1998 minutes
PASSED BY CONSENSUS: To approve the January 28' minutes with changes made to pages
2, 3 and 4, with Commissioner Aurelio abstaining.
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Planning Commission Minutes
February 11, 1998
Page 11
Approved 2/25/98
4 8. REPORT FROM THE SITE DEVELOPMENT HEARINGS- FEBRUARY 10, 1998
8.1 LANDS OF WINDY HILL ASSOCIATES, 27190 Ohlone Lane (7-98-ZP-SD); A
request for a Site Development Permit for a landscape plan. Approved with
conditions.
8.2 LANDS OF WINDY HILL ASSOCIATES, 27200 Ohlone Lane (8-98-ZP-SD); A
request for a Site Development Permit for a landscape plan. Approved with
conditions.
8.3 LANDS OF WINDY HILL ASSOCIATES, 27210 Oblone Lane (9-98-ZP-SD); A
request for a Site Development Permit for a landscape plan. Approved with
conditions.
8.4 LANDS OF WINDY HILL ASSOCIATES, 27220 Ohlone Lane (10-98-ZP-SD);
A request for a Site Development Permit for a landscape plan. Approved with
conditions.
Sandy Humphries, Environmental Design Committee, voiced concern regarding solid redwood
fencing between properties because this is the area the native creatures use to move through the
area. There should be a way to restrict the number of inches from the ground to the fence so
small creatures can travel through. She would like to see native plantings between properties so
small creatures can move freely.
9. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned by consensus at 10:50 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
L i Lonberg(:e V
Planning Secretary