HomeMy WebLinkAbout10/24/2002Minutes of a Regular Meeting Approved 11/14/02
Town of Los Altos Hills
PLANNING COMMISSION
Thursday, October 24, 2002, 7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers, 26379 Fremont Road
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ROLL CALL AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Planning Commission regular meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. in the Council
Chambers at Town Hall.
Present: Chairman Vitu, Commissioners Clow, Cottrell & Kerns
Absent: Commissioner Wong
Staff: Carl Cahill, Planning Director; Mintze Cheng, City Engineer; Angelica Herrera.
Assistant Planner; Lam Smith, Planning Secretary
2. PRESENTATIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Jolon Wagner, 26786 Robleda Court, stated there have been remarks made at different Town
meetings regarding St. Nicholas representatives not in favor of a pathways near or abutting the
school property. She approached the current school principal and the pastoral associate. Roth
were not aware that St. Nicholas had ever taken a position one way or another. She also spoke to
Father Gary Thomas who stated St. Nicholas has a completely neutral position on the pathways.
He was disturbed to learn that anyone had in any way attempted to misrepresent St. Nicholas'
church or school neutrality on this issue. He intends to write letters to both the Planning
Commission and Town Council to clarify that St. Nicholas does not intend to interfere. Please
be alert that any pathways or easements that may be considered for removal in the area of St.
Nicholas School or on the updated map should be revisited.
3. PUBLIC HEARINGS
3.1 LANDS OF HUANG, 27580 Arastradero Road (203 -00 -TM -ND -GD); A request
to revise Tentative Map for a six -lot subdivision for the proposed relocation of the
approved public cul-de-sac, Twin Oaks Court, in proximity to Amstradero Road.
This item was introduced by the Planning Director noting the changes (cul-de-sac) will require
less grading. The City Engineer stated there was no objection by the engineering department.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
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Bud Chor, 27580 Arastradero Road, project engineer, reviewed a letter from the applicant dated
September 10, 2002, noting reasons for the modifications.
Sandy Humphries, Environmental Design Committee, asked why there was fencing around the
entire subdivision and was it necessary? She asked why staff did not question this request. It
was clarified that the application being heard was not for a fence.
CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING
Brief discussion ensued. All Commissioners agreed this was a better plan for the Town and the
public.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Clow and seconded by
Commissioner Kerns to recommend to the City Council approval of the revised Tentative Map
for the proposed relocation of the public cul-de-sac, Lands of Huang, 27580 Arastradem Road,
with the recommended action as noted by the assistant engineer in the review letter dated
October 17, 2002.
AYES: Chairman Vita, Commissioners Cottrell, Kerns & Clow
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Wong
This item will appear on the November 7, 2002 City Council agenda.
3.2 LANDS OF HUANG, 27580 Arastradem Road (203 -00 -TM -ND -GD); A request
to delete the approved subdivision condition requiring conservation easements on
the six lot subdivision and instead pay the required park land dedication in lieu
fees.
The Planning Director introduced this item stating this is a request to remove a condition that
required conservation easements. This is not a public hearing to remove the conservation
easements that have been formally dedicated to the Town. The owner has cited a number of
reasons for the removal. The reason staff required the conservation easements was due to steep
slopes on lots 3 and 5 and the landslide repair area. At the time of subdivision, the conservation
easements did not appear to interfere with any future development. He further discussed the
subdivision code regarding conservation easements. If the Commission finds that the
conservation easements are not necessary, then the applicant would be asked to pay the required
park land in -lieu fees. Commissioner Clow understood that the applicant did not have a problem
with conservation easements over areas of 50% slopes. The Planning Director noted that this
could be an option if they want to place the conservation easements over the 50% slope areas,
although they are very fragmented areas. Commissioner Clow felt they could recommend to the
City Council that the 50% and over slope areas be placed in a conservation easement plus some
additional land to make it contiguous. This would allow the houses to be set further back from
the freeway to allow landscape mitigation.
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OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Bud Chor, 27580 Arastradero Road, project engineer, provided a letter from the applicant
referring to her neighbor at 14414 Saddle Mountain Drive. She stated that the fence issue was
not relevant to the conservation easements, and requesting approval. The fence complies with
Town ordinances. The applicant feels the fence is important for privacy and safety issues. He
discussed the home site locations on lots 3 and 4 without the conservation easements, the
landslide area, and the geotechnical report.
Sandy Humphries, Environmental Design Committee, discussed the previous design and the
swale which has been interfered with (major drainage area). She felt there was a
misunderstanding regarding what a conservation easement is all about. They are to keep health
eco systems for the wildlife and the environment.
Mintze Cheng, City Engineer, stated engineering supports the piping through the area. Normally
they ask for sheet flow but because this is a land slide area the current design was approved.
Scott Vanderlip, 13851 Fremont Pines Lane, Scott Stack, and Michael Wagner, 26786 Robleda
Court, read a statement regarding conservation easements and requirements for park and
recreation dedication fees as stated in the Municipal Code. They felt this change in the way the
code is being implemented requires serious review and analysis before any more conservation
easements are exchanged for cash without evidence of what the possible impacts are and proof
that the case mitigates those impacts. They recommended that the Commission not approve this
request to exchange a conservation easement for a park in -lieu fee. They should discuss this
important precedence setting decision first as well as the important environment impact it may
cause on this lot and other future lots where a similar request could be made. All three readers
voiced opposition to the request.
Steve Bristow, 12355 Hilltop Drive, felt it was not in the interest of the Town to remove
conservation easements for dollars. They should stop the process now of accepting in -lieu fees.
Dot Schreiner, 14301 Saddle Mountain Drive, was also concerned with the fence around the
property. She referred to Mr. Mills fence that he installed on his property in 1983 which has
been removed without his permission. There is a visual impact which blocks three fourths of his
view. She referred to the original Initial Study for this subdivision dated May, 2001 which has
specific mitigation measures required of this subdivision, quoting from pages 2, 4, 6, and 27 of
the staff report. The conservation easements that are required as well as the slide area repair and
geotechnical issues are all requirements of the mitigated declaration. If they now allow the
mitigation measures to be eliminated they are eliminating the requirements of the Neg. Dec. thus
not making the findings for approval. She asked that the application be denied.
Duncan McMillan, 27345 Natoma Road, voiced opposition to the project and the new fence. He
felt everyone should read the May 2001 report. The original condition #19 (a) was added to the
conditions stating "the highest point of the ridge of any structure located on lot 2 shall not
exceed the finished first floor elevation of the existing residence located to the west". This
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condition did not survive the Council and was substituted with #20, "The protection of views
from the existing residence located to the west (Mills residence) shall be considered at the time
of Site Development Permit review of Lot 2". The fence application should have been reviewed
closer.
Carol Gottlieb, 24290 Summerhill Avenue, was on the Planning Commission when this
subdivision was approved. She read from the original staff report stating "in order to
recommend approval of the document (Tentative Map), the Commission needs to find that any
potential significant environmental effects are addressed through the proposed mitigation
measures." The subdivision was approved with mitigation measures of the conservation
easements. She further discussed the Circulation Element, Conservation Element, Open Space
Element, and the Recreation Element as they relate to conservation easements. This subdivision
needed the conservation easements and mitigation.
Barbara O'Brien, 26815 Ortega Drive, discussed the new fence referring to it as the "great wall
of Los Altos Hills". It destroys views.
John Hughes, 27800 Saddle Court, noted that this went through the subdivision process and part
of the process was the necessary conservation easements. There must have been findings. They
need evidence for changing the initial document. He also referred to the construction of the solid
fence which restricts wildlife movement and blocks views.
4W Sandy Humphries asked why the fence was needed and is there a process which allows people to
request changes in a conservation easement.
Jolon Wagner, 26786 Robleda Court, voiced opposition to the application
CLOSED PUBLIC DARING
Commissioner Kerns does not like removing conservation easements which were approved at the
time of subdivision as there were reasons for the request (steep slopes, land slide areas, and
groves of trees around the top part of the property). This sets a bad precedent allowing people to
pay to give up their conservation easements. He does not have a problem negotiating and
moving some conservation easements around to accommodate the building site although he
would prefer keeping them as originally proposed.
Commissioner Cottrell agreed. Applicants should not be able to buy their way out of
conservation easements. He was not in support of the request. Also, he would like to do
something about the fence, if possible, as it is an eye sore and should be changed.
Commissioner Clow agreed. In speaking with the applicant, her purpose was to move the houses
back further from the freeway to reduce noise and provide landscaping. He would not support
removing the conservation easements but he could support adjustments to them to allow the sites
to be moved further from the freeway, not removing trees, not within the 50% slope area, the
landscape danger is not getting worse, and the total area of the conservation easement staying the
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400 same. He also suggested an open fence in return for a more desirable siting. The conservation
easement can be reviewed at the Site Development stage.
Chairman Vita also agreed. They could review modifying the conservation easements to
improve the siting of the home at the time of site development. She could not support deleting
the conservation easements by paying an in -lieu fee.
MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Cottrell and seconded by
Commissioner Kerns to recommend to the City Council denial of the request to delete the
approved conservation easements and payment of in -lieu fees, Lands of Huang, 27580
Arastradero Road.
AYES: Chairman Vita, Commissioners Clow, Kerns & Cottrell
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Wong
This action is subject to a 23 day appeal period.
3.3 LANDS OF EVERSHINE, 13310 La Paloma Road (177-02-ZP-SD-GD); A
request for a Site Development Permit for a 26,709 square foot new
residence (maximum height 27 feet), pool and spa.
rr Staff (Angelica Herrera) provided an overview of the application noting the proposed design is
meant to lower the profile of the two story residence on a highly visible lot by partially burying
the first floor below the existing grade. The applicant was advised by staff that the Planning
Commission has the discretion to restrict the height of structures on highly visible lots such as
this one. As a result of burying the home into the hilltop, two exceptions to the grading policy
are required: maximum cut; and maximum fill allowed. The City Engineer (Mintze Cheng)
discussed the proposed design and the 28,000 cubic yards of dirt that need to be removed or
relocated. The plan indicates they are proposing to keep two-thirds of the excavation (19,000
cubic yards) which will be re -spread on their 11 acre site. If this is not allowed it would be very
visible to the public to have off -haul trucks making 3,000 round trips to export the soil. This will
also impact the roads. However, if this plan is approved the applicant would be conditioned to
repair the streets and designate a truck route. The plan does not conform to the grading policy.
The excess soil needs to spread around or hauled away. Commissioner Clow asked if there was
an opportunity to keep the soil on the site. Ms. Cheng responded that sometimes they allow the
dirt to stay on the site so there would be minimum impact on the streets. However, you are
looking at 19,000 cubic yards of dirt, spreading it on a 11 acre site. It is not typical in Town to
have such a large amount of dirt moved around a hillside. Her preference would be to off -haul
the dirt and to condition the applicant to repair the roads. Discussion ensued regarding the
difference of leaving two-thirds of the dirt on site or all of it on the site. She indicated that since
the applicant wanted to move forward with the application, staff did not have the opportunity to
look at options regarding the dirt prior to this meeting.
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
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Fred Chan, 19770 Stevens Creek Blvd., Cupertino, applicant, stated they have been
investigating a design for the site for the last five years. He wants to build a house for his family
and minimize impacts on the neighborhood. They have held two open house sessions where
seven of the neighbors voiced support.
Tom Mope, Los Altos, landscape architect, indicated 70% of the site will be left in its natural
state (undisturbed hillside). No trees are scheduled for removal and they are preserving all of the
native mature trees which occur on the lower slopes of the property. In the past two years the
applicant has established native planting and other plantings around the perimeter of project with
the anticipation of development of this parcel. They have preserved the hilltop setting making it
harmonious with local topography rather than having a large structure that steps down the slope
or other conventional ways of putting a house on a hillside site. He further discussed the
driveway conforming with fire department standards without requiring any retaining walls. A
double alley of trees are proposed to help screen the driveway making it a more interesting
environment. He further discussed other design features of the house, the proposed vegetation,
outdoor living areas buffered from off-site views, and the placement of the house which exceeds
minimum setback requirements.
Terry Eger, 13050 Alta Lane North, voiced opposition to the project as he will be looking at
27,000 square feet of structure blocking bay views. He prefers a smaller house on the site. He
was also concerned with the spreading the dirt on the site which will raise the hill two to three
feet which will further impact his views. This looks like a commercial building or a hotel. He
asked what will happen if the property is sold? He asked that the Commission not approve the
project and not allow them to spread the dirt on the site.
Rudolph Alfinito, 25870 Westwind Way, discussed the variety of homes in the area. This house
looks like a hotel from his property. He felt they should move the house down the hillside,
blending with the contours of the land which would be more appealing. The proposed height and
size is in total disregard of the neighbors. They should take into consideration the impact of the
neighbors.
Carol Gottlieb, 24290 Summerhill Avenue, stated she has never before seen a vertical cut of 27
feet. This house is not designed according to the site development ordinances.
Allison Taborek, 28190 Radcliff Lane, agreed with the previous speaker in that they should not
allow houses to be built on crest lines.
Robert Blair, 27161 Fremont Road, stated he will not be impacted but has known about the
property for years. He thought the property was going to be subdivided. In general, the design is
better than he expected and it is certainly better than four or five houses, if subdivided.
Dot Schreiner, 14301 Saddle Mountain Drive, stated, if allowed, will set a precedent
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far Jolon Wager, 26786 Robleda Court, discussed other large projects on Templeton Place and
Wildflower Lane. She described the many construction cars parking everywhere and the length
of time for completion. She was not sure how this house could blend in. She asked that the
Commission take into consideration the construction noise which will go on for years.
Pong Ng, 1513 Fairway Drive, Los Altos, consulting architect, stated this is a rather large home
on an extremely large lot. They are only using 64% of the allowed maximum floor area on this
lot. In reality, there is only 11,000 square feet above ground; everything else is buried
underneath. This is what triggers the large amount of dirt. He referred to the staff report
regarding the figures for the first and second stories. They have tried to lower the house as much
as possible into the hill. Yes, there is a 27 foot cut of which 10 feet is actually a basement
maintained around the perimeter. The home is designed so no one sees the entire length of the
home. It is difficult to hide the house from the neighbors to the south because they are above this
site. He felt they were only blocking 2% of the overall horizon. If the home was placed
somewhere else, there would be zero percent chance of the owners enjoying their property. If
this house cannot be built, there is a possibility of subdividing the property for maximum value.
It was clarified that the hill would actually be lower with the house on top of it then it is today.
The maximum height above the existing peek of the crown is only about 5 feet. This is the
reason for so much grading as they did their best to sink the home into the hill. Regarding the
spreading of the dirt or taking it off the site, they will be spreading the dirt on the lower areas
which will mitigate the number of truck trips. Two thirds of the dirt could be left on site.
Susan Roberts, project civil engineer, explained there are only a few isolated areas with fill up to
7 feet which are berming areas. This will not effect Mr. Eger's views. Sheet flow design for
drainage was discussed. Further discussion ensued regarding relocation of the home and the
material used for the flat roof area. Mr. Ng also discussed the stability of the slope with
compacting of the soil. This will be handled by the civil engineer. They have 11 '/z acres to
spread the dirt around.
Terry Eger stated he will be seeing the whole house. He was also concerned with the spreading
of the dirt on the lower area. If the Commission decides to approve a 27,000 square foot home
there is nothing he can do about it. However he can fight the dirt issue if it impacts him.
Sandy Humphries, Environmental Design Committee, requested a conservation easement over
the drainage area along the side of the road on the left, preserving the oak trees as well.
Rudolph Alfinito, 25870 Westwind Way, sees the entire house as viewed by the story poles.
CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING
Commissioner Clow noted everyone would be happy to retain the open space. A 27,000 square
foot house is a big house. The alternative could have been a subdivision with four 7,000 square
foot houses with a few on the ridgeline. The 27 foot cut is to minimize the impact of the house.
He felt the applicant has gone to extreme lengths to make this home blend into the knoll as much
as possible. Assuming there is development on this property this is one of the best kind of
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4 development you could have although it is not as good as nothing at all. He would prefer
keeping all of the dirt on site and spreading it around with natural contours (engineered). He
would support the application with the hope they could keep the dirt on site.
Commissioner Cottrell stated this is a big house. They cannot tell the owners to build a smaller
house. The applicants have gone to great lengths to create a design that minimizes the
appearance from other locations. Regarding the Eger site, he was not sure anything could be
built on the hill that would not obstruct some of his view because he is at a higher elevation. He
was concerned with the large amount of dirt removal. There should be a way to spread the dirt in
such a way so it will not move or create a slide hazard. If there is damage to the roads, they will
need to be fixed. He supports the project if they can built in proper engineering for the soil work
and mitigation for landscaping so the house will not be seen from other locations. There was a
mention of a conservation easement as there are some very steep areas on the site. He did not
know why they could not ask for conservation easements for areas where the slopes are over
40% to 50%.
Commissioner Kerns noted that this house is probably one of the largest homes in the Hills. The
ordinances do allow these numbers for the lot. It is much better than multiple homes spread
across the land. The applicant has lowered the house by cutting it into the hill and tried to be
sensitive to the neighbor's views. The landscape plan will be reviewed at the Commission level
and at that time they can work with the neighbors regarding placement of landscaping. The
height of the house does vary from 15 feet to 22 feet with a few areas up to 27 feet. He was also
concerned regarding the grading and the fill on the site which needs to be looked at very
carefully in respect to drainage and drainage swales making sure the water is routed
appropriately to avoid erosion problems. He agreed with Commissioner Clow regarding a way
to keep the dirt on site although he did not feel they should go much over the grading policy
numbers of 3 feet. The house is below the maximum floor area allowed. He can support the
project but he would like to have something relating to the drainage fill location.
Chairman Vitu felt the applicants have worked very hard to lessen the impact of the house. This
development will have less impact than a potential subdivision. The height on this ridgeline
above existing grade goes from 15 feet to 22 feet. Regarding grading, it is important to spread
soil to follow the contours. Drainage must be considered so there is no erosion or flow of soil
changes to impact other properties. She was also in favor of keeping the dirt on site, if possible,
with the three foot fill which will cause less damage to the roads and less visual impact on the
neighbors. She can support the project.
Commissioner Clow suggested a little flexibility with the three foot limit if, from an engineering
point of view, there are places where it could be deeper and it works to the satisfaction of the
engineering department. Keeping all of the dirt on site would prevent trucks from going on the
roads and chewing up the pavement. He would prefer a way of spreading the dirt that is
consistent with natural contours and with proper engineering and no erosion.
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116 MOTION SECONDED AND PASSED: Motion by Commissioner Clow and seconded by
Commissioner Kerns to approve the request for a Site Development Permit for a new residence,
pool and spa, Lands of Evershine, 13310 La Paloma Road, with the following additions and
changes to the conditions of approval: do everything possible, with good engineering, to keep
the fill on site and do whatever planting, etc. is needed to prevent landslides or erosion problems
and that the natural contours are maintained. The applicant shall work with the engineering
department regarding on-site inspections during grading of the site. The applicant also needs to
pay for the inspection costs and their soils engineer needs to be on-site to make sure the
contractor complies to the design plan. The Town Geologist will also be on-site to review the
grading operation. Staff will work with the applicant to expand the conservation easement to
cover the oak tree area.
AYES: Chairman Vitu, Commissioners Clow, Kerns & Cottrell
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Wong
This approval is subject to a 23 day appeal period.
4. OLD BUSINESS
4.1 Report from subcommittees -none
S. NEW BUSINESS -none
6. REPORT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
6.1 Planning Commission representative for October 17' , Commissioner Kerns,
reported on the following: proposed 2002 master path plan; fee schedule; and Town Hall
project.
6.2 Planning Commission Representative for November 7� — Commissioner Wong
6.3 Planning Commission Representative for November 2151 — Commissioner Vito
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
7.1 Approval of September 12, 2002 minutes
APPROVED BY CONSENSUS: To approve the September 12, 2002 minutes.
7.2 Approval of September 26, 2002 minutes
APPROVED BY CONSENSUS: To approve the September 26, 2002 minutes.
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7.3 Approval of the October 10, 2002 minutes
APPROVED BY CONSENSUS: To approve the October 10, 2002 minutes.
8. REPORT FOR FAST TRACK SITE DEVELOPMENT MEETING OF OCTOBER 15 &
22 2002
8.1 LANDS OF BOAL, 13860 Robleda Road (129-02-ZP-SD); A request for a Site
Development Permit for a new residence and secondary dwelling unit. Approved
with conditions.
8.2 LANDS OF SCHREINER, 12774 Leander Drive (155-02-ZP-SD-GD); A request
for a Site Development Permit for a major addition. Approved with conditions.
8.3 LANDS OF IRANI, 24008 Oak Knoll Circle (172-02-ZP-SD-GD); A request for
a Site Development Permit for a new residence, secondary dwelling, and pool.
Approved with conditions.
8.4 LANDS OF ZIPOLO, 12675 Dianne Drive (120-02-ZP-SD-GD); A request for a
Site Development Permit for a new residence, a secondary dwelling unit, and
pool. Approved with conditions.
8.5 LANDS OF BRASSINGTON, 26020 Elena Road (141-02-ZP-SD-GD); A
request for a Site Development Permit for a new residence with an attached
secondary dwelling unit. Approved with conditions.
9. REPORT FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT MEETING, OCTOBER 15 & 22, 2002
9.1 LANDS OF GODINHO, 12250 Menalto Drive (175-02-ZP-SD); A request for a
Site Development Permit for a grading and landscape plan. Approved with
conditions.
9.2 LANDS OF PICA, 12000 Kate Drive (139-02-ZP-SD); A request for a Site
Development Permit for a pool and cabana with a basement. Approved with
conditions.
9.3 LANDS OF JIA, 12101 Stonebrook Drive (83-02-ZP-SD); A request for a Site
Development Permit for a pool, spa, and landscaping. Approved with conditions.
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10. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned by consensus at 9:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Lani Smith
Planning Secretary
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