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November 19, 1991
Town of Los Altos Hills
City Council Meeting
Tuesday, November 19, 1991, 7:00 P.M.
Bullis-Purissima School, 25890 Fremont Road
1. CALL TO ORDER,ROLL CALL,AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Mayor Hubbard called the Special Meeting of the City Council to order at 7:05 p.m.
at Bullis-Purissima School.
Present: Mayor Hubbard and Councilmembers Casey, Johnson,
Siegel and Tryon.
Absent: None
Staff: City Manager Les Jones and City Clerk Pat Dowd
Press: Don Brignolo, San Jose Mercury; Susan Jackson, Peninsula
Times Tribune
2. WHAT CAN LOS ALTOS HILLS LEARN FROM THE OAKLAND
FIRE?
A. Purpose of Meeting
Mayor Hubbard welcomed everyone to the meeting and believed it would be
an informative evening on what the Town could learn from the recent, tragic
fire in Oakland.
B. Introductions
Mayor Hubbard introduced the following groups in addition to the speakers
who would be addressing the Council: Los Altos County Fire Protection
District Board, Purissima Hills Water District Board, Planning Commission,
Safety Committee, Environmental Design and Protection Committee, Town
Emergency Coordinators and Town Ham Radio Operators.
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1. California Water Services Clay Scofield
Mr. Scofield noted that California Water served one-third of the Town and he
congratulated the residents on their water conservation. He commented on
the water pressure and the use of portable booster generators. Mr. Scofield
provided a map of their service area in the Town and noted that they had an
emergency connection to the Purissima Hills Water District in case it was
needed.
2. Los Altos Fire Department Richard Landrum
Fire Chief Richard Landrum recommended several steps to lessen the fire
danger in the Town. These recommendations included landscaping being at
least thirty feet from the house, roofs being cleared of leaves, use of drought
tolerant plants, fire retardant roofing and awareness that eucalyptus trees are
a very volatile species of trees. Mr. Landrum stated that the resources were
available for fighting a fire in the Town. In addition to personnel and fire
equipment there was the County Mutual Aid Agreement and the California
Master Mutual Aid Agreement. In response to an inquiry about watering
down roofs, Mr. Landrum stated that if someone were doing this it was too
late. This placed everyone in danger, took the firefighters off what they were
supposed to be doing and also worked against the hydrant pressure. Mr.
kla• Landrum also noted that the fire department could get to all sections of the
Town in case of an emergency although some areas were more difficult to
reach than others. The critical elements of a fire were time, topography and
the nature of the fire.
3. Pacific Bell Steve Petrocchi and
Patti Stewart
Ms. Stewart noted that Pacific Bell had an extensive emergency program
including a network management center in San Ramon and an emergency
operating center in Palo Alto. Portable equipment was available and they sent
service representatives to the evacuation centers after a disaster. As they
shared poles, they worked very closely with PG&E. Ms. Stewart commented
that after a disaster there tended to be a flurry of phone calls but they did ask
that people not get on the phones as this jammed the lines.
4. Pacific Gas &Electric Dennis Ikerd
Mr. Ikerd noted that he was one of the emergency coordinators for PG&E and
was also the representative from PG&E to Los Altos Hills. He noted that
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PG&E had an extensive emergency plan; however, it was not possible for
PG&E to work in the middle of a fire. He relayed what they had lost in the
Oakland fire. Mr. Ikerd commented that Los Altos Hills was divided into a
grid system and they could isolate the area in trouble. He further commented
that if the power was shut off to a grid, then the power was also off to the
pumping stations so it was very important for them to coordinate with the
water companies. Mr. Ikerd suggested turning off gas and electricity to the
house if one had time, making sure vegetation was not too close to the house
as it covered up their lines, not having shake roofs and being aware the
eucalyptus trees were dangerous to their power lines. He explained how they
set up a command post in the event of an emergency and asked for
understanding on the part of the residents when their crews were working
after a disaster. Mr. Ikerd suggested that it would be most helpful if they
could have an area in the Town where they could stockpile equipment for
use in a disaster. This would reduce the response and travel time in getting
the Town back on line.
5. Purissima Water District William McCann
General Manager William McCann presented a review of the District's
facilities following the Oakland fire. This report (a copy is on file at Town
Hall) included a discussion of the Town's pipelines, storage tanks, pumps,
telemetry and communications. He concurred with Fire Chief Landrum
regarding not using sprinklers in a fire. This did cause a drain on the system.
Mr. McCann noted that future plans included consideration of an intertie
with the Santa Clara Valley Water District, an additional pumping facility to
serve the Town's highest zone, the development of a well site and
improvements to the two-way communication system.
6. Sheriff's Department Captain Robert Wilson
Captain Wilson reported on their priorities in a fire emergency situation.
These priorities included setting up command and control stations, protecting
people and property, preventing looting, controlling crowds, working with
the fire department, implementing the evacuation process, providing security
at the centers that are set up and assisting the disabled. Regarding the
disabled, Captain Wilson noted that they relied on the neighbors to let them
know if anyone needed assistance and he suggested getting to know who
lived in the neighborhood as an aid in case of emergency. Captain Wilson
also suggested better and illuminated signage of streets and house numbers.
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( D. Questions and Answers
w Dr. Howard Martin, 11666 Dawson Drive, referred to the 1984 election at
which time the residents voted to delete the ordinance requiring fire
retardant roofing from the Town's Code. He questioned whether individual
freedom could be used in this manner and strongly believed that fire
retardant roofing should be required in the Town. Dr. Martin further
suggested that no new eucalyptus trees be planted and that the streets be wide
enough for fire equipment. He also recommended a review of fire truck
access to all sites, of hydrant adequacy and of pathway safety.
Donna Peterson, Ravensbury, asked if the Fire Department patrolled the
Town and also inquired about the responsibility for eucalpytus trees.
Betsy Bertram, 11854 Page Mill Road, believed that dead growth was an issue
and suggested that weed abatement be better enforced. She also believed Palo
Alto, Mountain View and Los Altos should have been included in this
meeting. Mrs. Bertram asked if PG&E had any information on propane. In
response to an inquiry about the evacuation of large animals, she noted that
the emergency coordinators had found places where the animals could be
kept in an emergency.
Charles Garbett, 13906 Page Mill Road, noted that the houses that survived
IIlir the fire had fire retardant roofing and thought it was absurd that the Town
did not require such roofing. Mr. Garbett also commented that he had some
experience with propane and stated that all combustibles should be kept away
from propane.
Norman Blank, Corbetta Lane, asked if there was a chain of command for
notifying the media of an evacuation and also asked about the responsibility
for removing dead trees.
A. Richard Jones, 12660 LaCresta Drive, asked if there was any benefit to
undergrounding utilities in the event of a disaster.
George Dill, 13300 E. Sunset Drive, stated there would be no way they could
get out if the poles went done on their street.
Ruth Buneman, 12655 LaCresta Drive, commented on the use of salt water to
fight fires in France and wondered why this was not done in the States.
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Margot Pratt, 2215 Old Page Mill Road, asked what the policy was on getting
back to one's house after an evacuation.
Jitze Couperus, 13680 Page Mill Road, noted that a fire had been caused by a
Sheriffs deputy when he responded to an accident on Page Mill Road. Mr.
Couperus urged the deputies to be more careful when using flares.
Charles Pack, 25303 LaLoma Drive, complained about the roofing industry.
He had been misinformed when doing his re-roof and he believed they
should raise their standards of salesmanship.
Jerry Peterson, Ravensbury, inquired about the response time to fires.
Bob Burns, Committee for Fire Safe Roofing, stated that the purpose of this
committee was not to tell someone what kind of roof to get but where to find
the information on types of roofing. He was located in Mountain View and
had packets of information available for anyone who was interested. Mr.
Burns also noted that it was important for cities to do long range planning
regarding fire safety. He mentioned public awareness and different
perceptions as evidenced by the MGM fire which resulted in the use of smoke
detectors. It often took making very difficult decisions.
Jan Fenwick, 28011 Elena Road, asked if there should be a fire station in Los
Altos Hills.
Jean Struthers, 13690 Robleda Road, expressed her fear of an arsonist setting
off the eucalyptus trees. She would like to see the road shoulders cleared of
eucaluptus trees.
Stephanie Munoz, 13460 Robleda, also commented on the removal of
eucalptus trees and believed the Town should work together with residents
on these safety issues.
Tryon reported that the Town had a good emergency plan which included the
Town being divided into thirty five neighborhoods, each with a coordinator.
Tryon also noted that Los Altos Hills had far less density than Oakland and
Santa Clara County had an excellent organization on emergency
preparedness. Communication, education, coordination with governmental
agencies and use of the Town Newsletter all contributed to a good emergency
plan.
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Fire Chief Landrum made the following comments in response to the
questions raised. He noted that the 30' minimum for landscaping was
important as fire could travel very fast. Regarding the responsibility for
eucalyptus trees it was difficult to enforce as it was hard in some cases to
determine who owned them. In response to the Mayor's question about
adapters he stated that there were State standards for outlets but these were
not mandatory. Mr. Landrum commented that salt water was not used in the
States as it was very expensive to get the equipment. Regarding the issue of
stations, he noted that the Fire Commission was currently looking at the El
Monte Station and Palo Alto, Mountain View and Los Altos were looking at
the possibility of joint facilities. A study was also underway on the
equipment. In summary, Mr. Landrum noted the key words: mitigation,
response and recovery which included adequate road widths, adequate water,
fire retardant roofs, adequate addressing of properties and appropriate
landscaping.
Captain Robert Wilson stated that once an evacuation is declared no one can
get back into the area and arrests will be made if necessary. He also noted that
police and fire work together immediately in responding to a disaster but one
of the problems of the Oakland fire was that it moved so fast. In response to a
question regarding whether or not there was a plan for the evacuation of
large animals in case of a disaster, Captain Wilson noted that there was not.
iby Their priority was the safe evacuation of the residents and oftentimes the
horse trailers in such a situation prevented emergency crews from getting
through.
Dennis Ikerd noted that undergrounding utilities did not provide that much
of an advantage over overhead.
E. Summary
Mayor Hubbard thanked everyone for attending this meeting. It had been
most informative and he noted that many of the issues and concerns raised
would be discussed further by the Council.
3. PRESENTATIONS FROM THE FLOOR
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4. ADJOURNMENT
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There being no further new or old business to discuss, the meeting was
adjourned at 10:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Patricia Dowd
City Clerk
The minutes of the November 19, 1991 Special City Council Meeting were
approved at the December 18, 1991 Regular City Council Meeting.
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